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Nomen Nescio
08-19-10, 06:16 PM
"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26d630c14194262c989690@us.news.astraweb.com...


> VPN's are very easy to spot in the firewalls, and if a person is using
> one that doesn't have permission - well, you get the idea.
>
> You also need to consider that the source IP and destination IP are
> visible in any firewall.
>

Another problem is these new anonymity/privacy services
online now that are capable of extreme encryption and that
do not use normal VPN. One such "darknet" where they
use their own prorietary encryption scheme must be giving
network administrators fits, becuase of the 2048-bit
scheme that is proprietary and, therefore, cannot be
intercepted with man in the middle attacks.

Skywise
08-20-10, 10:12 PM
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in
news:b736d009b38aa13d0dd16dd37691bb2c@dizum.com:

> Another problem is these new anonymity/privacy services
> online now that are capable of extreme encryption and that
> do not use normal VPN. One such "darknet" where they
> use their own prorietary encryption scheme must be giving
> network administrators fits, becuase of the 2048-bit
> scheme that is proprietary and, therefore, cannot be
> intercepted with man in the middle attacks.

You know nothing of intelligence gathering, do you? I'm no
expert, but I've read a few book on cryptography. It's an
interest of mine.

The very fact that an encrypted communication is taking
place *IS* information.

You cannot hide the fact that communication is taking place,
even if you cannot break the encryption.

In the context of network administration, finding encrypted
communication on the network WILL attract attention. The
admin doesn't need to know what it is. They WILL know it's
happening and WILL know which computer it's coming from/
going to.

THAT is something you seem to be unable to get through your
thick assed skull.

Even *I* know this and I only have a lowly home network.

Brian
--
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Leythos
08-21-10, 03:26 AM
In article <b736d009b38aa13d0dd16dd37691bb2c@dizum.com>,
nobody@dizum.com says...
>
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26d630c14194262c989690@us.news.astraweb.com...
>
>
> > VPN's are very easy to spot in the firewalls, and if a person is using
> > one that doesn't have permission - well, you get the idea.
> >
> > You also need to consider that the source IP and destination IP are
> > visible in any firewall.
> >
>
> Another problem is these new anonymity/privacy services
> online now that are capable of extreme encryption and that
> do not use normal VPN. One such "darknet" where they
> use their own prorietary encryption scheme must be giving
> network administrators fits, becuase of the 2048-bit
> scheme that is proprietary and, therefore, cannot be
> intercepted with man in the middle attacks.

You seem to be missing something - we (security people) don't need to
know what is in the tunnel/vpn, all we need to know is that there is a
tunnel and it's not approved - easy to spot in seconds.

--
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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
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Leythos
08-21-10, 03:27 AM
In article <6uHbo.80953$GF5.58991@hurricane>, into@oblivion.nothing.com
says...
> The very fact that an encrypted communication is taking
> place *IS* information.
>

I think he's the old CHILLY idiot that use to brag about people
listening to his show and watching the Olympics and that no admin could
block him or detect it from their work networks....

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Skywise
08-21-10, 11:11 AM
Leythos <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in news:MPG.26d9581c674bcd7b989695
@us.news.astraweb.com:

> In article <6uHbo.80953$GF5.58991@hurricane>, into@oblivion.nothing.com
> says...
>> The very fact that an encrypted communication is taking
>> place *IS* information.
>>
>
> I think he's the old CHILLY idiot that use to brag about people
> listening to his show and watching the Olympics and that no admin could
> block him or detect it from their work networks....

I dind't think anyone doubted it was him.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
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Skywise
08-21-10, 11:13 AM
Leythos <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in news:MPG.26d9581c674bcd7b989695
@us.news.astraweb.com:

> In article <6uHbo.80953$GF5.58991@hurricane>, into@oblivion.nothing.com
> says...
>> The very fact that an encrypted communication is taking
>> place *IS* information.
>>
>
> I think he's the old CHILLY idiot that use to brag about people
> listening to his show and watching the Olympics and that no admin could
> block him or detect it from their work networks....

I dind't think anyone doubted it was him.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?