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ta1xxx@verizon.net
04-08-08, 08:36 AM
Here is a problem I'm having that others are having as well. I hope
someone here can help me solve them, since the answers will help end
the
frustration of lots of folks.

1. When I put my laptop in STANDBY mode overnight, in the morning, it
will not connect via my wireless router unless I first dial-up my ISP.
This does NOT happen if the laptop is in standby mode for a short
period
of time.

2. If I do a re-start, I'm almost always able to connect wirelessly
without first dialing up using the modem.

3. Sometimes I lose the connection with the router, even though the
signal strength shown on the machine is always maximum.

DETAILS:

1. This happens with 2 separate ISPs and 2 different routers (a 2Wire
router, and a Westell 327, designed by Westell specifically for
Verizon customers). That suggests that the problem is not the router
or the ISP, but my laptop.

2. Hardware/Software details:

I'm using a Dell Dimension D600, running XP Home, V2002, SP1. I'm
using a US Robotics PCMCIA card. When I tried to install SP2 some
years ago I ran into a conflict of some sort and abandoned the effort.

There must be something that triggers the dropping of the wireless
connection. Anyone have any ideas?

And why is it that dialing up my ISP via my modem, and then hanging
up, restores the connection?

NOTE: I've determined that lots of folks have this problem. Two
fixes I've read about that have NOT fixed the problem are (a) change
the Wireless Zero Configuration setting from AUTOMATIC to MANUAL; and
(b) use IPCONFIG to /RELEASE all connections, then /RENEW them. When
I try RELEASE, IPCONFIG tells me I'm not connected. And I never shut
the router off.

Jeff Liebermann
04-08-08, 08:50 AM
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:36:14 -0700 (PDT), ta1xxx@verizon.net wrote:

>I'm using a Dell Dimension D600, running XP Home, V2002, SP1. I'm
>using a US Robotics PCMCIA card. When I tried to install SP2 some
>years ago I ran into a conflict of some sort and abandoned the effort.

Then try again. There are a large number of "enhanccements" (i.e. bug
fixes) introduced in SP2 and subsequent updates. You're working with
a known buggy operating system.

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P.Schuman
04-08-08, 02:19 PM
<ta1xxx@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1dfd47bb-0494-49d7-ae77-ddf0ede81eac@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Here is a problem I'm having that others are having as well. I hope
> someone here can help me solve them, since the answers will help end
> the
> frustration of lots of folks.
>
> 1. When I put my laptop in STANDBY mode overnight, in the morning, it
> will not connect via my wireless router unless I first dial-up my ISP.
> This does NOT happen if the laptop is in standby mode for a short
> period
> of time.
>
> 2. If I do a re-start, I'm almost always able to connect wirelessly
> without first dialing up using the modem.
>
> 3. Sometimes I lose the connection with the router, even though the
> signal strength shown on the machine is always maximum.
>
> DETAILS:
>
> 1. This happens with 2 separate ISPs and 2 different routers (a 2Wire
> router, and a Westell 327, designed by Westell specifically for
> Verizon customers). That suggests that the problem is not the router
> or the ISP, but my laptop.
>
> 2. Hardware/Software details:
>
> I'm using a Dell Dimension D600, running XP Home, V2002, SP1. I'm
> using a US Robotics PCMCIA card. When I tried to install SP2 some
> years ago I ran into a conflict of some sort and abandoned the effort.
>
> There must be something that triggers the dropping of the wireless
> connection. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> And why is it that dialing up my ISP via my modem, and then hanging
> up, restores the connection?
>
> NOTE: I've determined that lots of folks have this problem. Two
> fixes I've read about that have NOT fixed the problem are (a) change
> the Wireless Zero Configuration setting from AUTOMATIC to MANUAL; and
> (b) use IPCONFIG to /RELEASE all connections, then /RENEW them. When
> I try RELEASE, IPCONFIG tells me I'm not connected. And I never shut
> the router off.

just a note - as I have the same type of problem with our Dell C610 laptops,
and their internal mini-pci WiFi cards.
I think that the card goes to sleep - as does the entire computer -
and then does not powerup correctly... so it's not a software thing.

Even using the Disable + Enable on the Network Connections for the card
does not always resolve the problem - a re-boot is required...

Peter Pan
04-08-08, 02:53 PM
P.Schuman wrote:
> <ta1xxx@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1dfd47bb-0494-49d7-ae77-ddf0ede81eac@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Here is a problem I'm having that others are having as well. I hope
>> someone here can help me solve them, since the answers will help end
>> the
>> frustration of lots of folks.
>>
>> 1. When I put my laptop in STANDBY mode overnight, in the morning, it
>> will not connect via my wireless router unless I first dial-up my
>> ISP. This does NOT happen if the laptop is in standby mode for a
>> short period
>> of time.
>>
>> 2. If I do a re-start, I'm almost always able to connect wirelessly
>> without first dialing up using the modem.
>>
>> 3. Sometimes I lose the connection with the router, even though the
>> signal strength shown on the machine is always maximum.
>>
>> DETAILS:
>>
>> 1. This happens with 2 separate ISPs and 2 different routers (a 2Wire
>> router, and a Westell 327, designed by Westell specifically for
>> Verizon customers). That suggests that the problem is not the router
>> or the ISP, but my laptop.
>>
>> 2. Hardware/Software details:
>>
>> I'm using a Dell Dimension D600, running XP Home, V2002, SP1. I'm
>> using a US Robotics PCMCIA card. When I tried to install SP2 some
>> years ago I ran into a conflict of some sort and abandoned the
>> effort. There must be something that triggers the dropping of the
>> wireless
>> connection. Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> And why is it that dialing up my ISP via my modem, and then hanging
>> up, restores the connection?
>>
>> NOTE: I've determined that lots of folks have this problem. Two
>> fixes I've read about that have NOT fixed the problem are (a) change
>> the Wireless Zero Configuration setting from AUTOMATIC to MANUAL; and
>> (b) use IPCONFIG to /RELEASE all connections, then /RENEW them. When
>> I try RELEASE, IPCONFIG tells me I'm not connected. And I never shut
>> the router off.
>
> just a note - as I have the same type of problem with our Dell C610
> laptops, and their internal mini-pci WiFi cards.
> I think that the card goes to sleep - as does the entire computer -
> and then does not powerup correctly... so it's not a software thing.
>
> Even using the Disable + Enable on the Network Connections for the
> card does not always resolve the problem - a re-boot is required...

got an on off switch for wireless? one of my laptops does and one doesn't,
for the one that does I can just flip the switch, for the other instead of a
reboot I can get away with a control panel/connect to/network/disable and
then re-enable it..

You said you had a laptop, does it do it when you close the lid? (mine
sleeps/hibernates after it's been on for awhile and freaks out, but if I
shut the lid it starts back up again correctly... have no idea what the
difference is between hibernate and sleep, so I just close the lid and it
does one of those two :)

Ted Lee
04-08-08, 03:08 PM
On Apr 8, 2:19*pm, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com>
wrote:
> <ta1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>

> just a note - as I have the same type of problem with our Dell C610 laptops,
> and their internal mini-pci WiFi cards.
> I think that the card goes to sleep - as does the entire computer -
> and then does not powerup correctly... so it's not a software thing.
>
> Even using the Disable + Enable on the Network Connections for the card
> does not always resolve the problem - a re-boot is required

I had a similar (or worse) problem with my Mac PowerBook and a 3rd-
party PCMCIA wireless card when I turned on encryption -- the notebook
wouldn't wake from sleep and I had to force a shutdown/reboot. I did
not have the problem when encryption was turned off (no idea why.) I
found that the problem went away if I made sure to quit (exit) the
wifi utility before I put the machine to sleep -- somehow it didn't
behave well through a sleep/wake cycle.

Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN