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RH
03-29-08, 11:05 PM
I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software for
discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried netstumbler and
wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!

Jeff Liebermann
03-30-08, 04:59 PM
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

>I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software for
>discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried netstumbler and
>wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!

Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista. See Vistumbler
at:
<http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>

Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
wlan show networks mode=bssid

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

LR
03-31-08, 03:05 AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software for
>> discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried netstumbler and
>> wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!
>
> Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista.


Wifi Hopper build 2008-021700 is supposed to be Vista compatible.
http://wifihopper.com/doc/1.2/ChangeLog.html



See Vistumbler
> at:
> <http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>
>
> Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
> Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
> wlan show networks mode=bssid
>

RH
03-31-08, 06:58 AM
"LR" <lrme@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software
>>> for discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried
>>> netstumbler and wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!
>>
>> Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista.
>
>
> Wifi Hopper build 2008-021700 is supposed to be Vista compatible.
> http://wifihopper.com/doc/1.2/ChangeLog.html
>
>
>
> See Vistumbler
>> at:
>> <http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>
>>
>> Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
>> Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
>> wlan show networks mode=bssid
>>

All these programs are telling me the adapter is not compatible.They run
fine under vista but specifically say they wont work with this adapter.

LR
03-31-08, 08:40 AM
RH wrote:
>
>
> "LR" <lrme@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:ML2dnUU3j7T-Bm3aRVnyiAA@bt.com...
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me
>>>> software for discovery that will work? I am running vista and have
>>>> tried netstumbler and wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!
>>>
>>> Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista.
>>
>>
>> Wifi Hopper build 2008-021700 is supposed to be Vista compatible.
>> http://wifihopper.com/doc/1.2/ChangeLog.html
>>
>>
>>
>> See Vistumbler
>>> at:
>>> <http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>
>>>
>>> Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
>>> Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
>>> wlan show networks mode=bssid
>>>
>
> All these programs are telling me the adapter is not compatible.They run
> fine under vista but specifically say they wont work with this adapter.
Not having a card with that chipset I can only suggest trying either
a:- Inssider
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
b:- Xirrus wifi monitor gadget
http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php

Jeff Liebermann
03-31-08, 10:39 AM
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:58:47 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:

>"LR" <lrme@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:ML2dnUU3j7T-Bm3aRVnyiAA@bt.com...
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software
>>>> for discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried
>>>> netstumbler and wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!
>>>
>>> Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista.
>>
>>
>> Wifi Hopper build 2008-021700 is supposed to be Vista compatible.
>> http://wifihopper.com/doc/1.2/ChangeLog.html
>>
>>
>>
>> See Vistumbler
>>> at:
>>> <http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>
>>>
>>> Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
>>> Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
>>> wlan show networks mode=bssid
>>>

>All these programs are telling me the adapter is not compatible.They run
>fine under vista but specifically say they wont work with this adapter.

That's not possible. The command line:
wlan show networks mode=bssid
is a *VISTA* command that comes with Windoze. If the card works under
Vista, then the wlan show etc... command has to work. Vistumbler is
just a front end for the wlan command.

Is this a new wireless card that you just installed in the machine?
Does it work? Do you have the Vista driver installed and working? Can
you connect to an access point? If possible, can you supply the exact
error message along with some clue as to what you're doing?

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

RH
03-31-08, 03:13 PM
"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:n612v3lkhjlvrbd5g425jq2hb09100pgnl@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:58:47 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>"LR" <lrme@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>news:ML2dnUU3j7T-Bm3aRVnyiAA@bt.com...
>>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have this wifi adapter on my new laptop.Can anyone tell me software
>>>>> for discovery that will work? I am running vista and have tried
>>>>> netstumbler and wifi hopper to no avail.Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Netstumbler and Wifi Hopper do not work with Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wifi Hopper build 2008-021700 is supposed to be Vista compatible.
>>> http://wifihopper.com/doc/1.2/ChangeLog.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See Vistumbler
>>>> at:
>>>> <http://www.techidiots.net/project-pages/vistumbler/view>
>>>>
>>>> Also, you can do quite a bit from the command line. Try:
>>>> Start -> run -> cmd <Enter>
>>>> wlan show networks mode=bssid
>>>>
>
>>All these programs are telling me the adapter is not compatible.They run
>>fine under vista but specifically say they wont work with this adapter.
>
> That's not possible. The command line:
> wlan show networks mode=bssid
> is a *VISTA* command that comes with Windoze. If the card works under
> Vista, then the wlan show etc... command has to work. Vistumbler is
> just a front end for the wlan command.
>
> Is this a new wireless card that you just installed in the machine?
> Does it work? Do you have the Vista driver installed and working? Can
> you connect to an access point? If possible, can you supply the exact
> error message along with some clue as to what you're doing?
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something more
detailed.

Jeff Liebermann
03-31-08, 05:07 PM
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:


>No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
>command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
>available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something more
>detailed.

http://wifihopper.com
--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

RH
04-01-08, 06:51 AM
"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nospam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
>>command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
>>available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something
>>more
>>detailed.
>
> http://wifihopper.com
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> # http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
> # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS


Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.

Bod43@hotmail.co.uk
04-02-08, 08:36 AM
On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
>
> news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
>
> > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> >>No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
> >>command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
> >>available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something
> >>more
> >>detailed.
>
> >http://wifihopper.com

> Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.

I concur.
Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
Maybe it will work somehow or other.

Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
a few things.

It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.

Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu

"Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor Unknown Device
(Unsupported)"
"Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) Unknown Device
(Unsupported)"

Both are greyed out.

This is the latest Netstumbler 0.4.0.

I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
Administrator.

Bod43@hotmail.co.uk
04-02-08, 09:05 AM
On 2 Apr, 15:36, Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> > >>No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
> > >>command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
> > >>available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something
> > >>more
> > >>detailed.
>
> > >http://wifihopper.com
> > Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.
>
> I concur.
> Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
> Maybe it will work somehow or other.
>
> Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
> a few things.
>
> It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.
>
> Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu
>
> "Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor * Unknown Device
> (Unsupported)"
> "Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) *Unknown Device
> (Unsupported)"
>
> Both are greyed out.
>
> This is the latest Netstumbler *0.4.0.
>
> I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
> Administrator.

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
Does work - not sure exactly if it is equivalent but it
is from what appears to be a reputable source.

LR
04-02-08, 09:51 AM
Bod43@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On 2 Apr, 15:36, Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>> No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
>>>>> command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
>>>>> available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something
>>>>> more
>>>>> detailed.
>>>> http://wifihopper.com
>>> Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.
>> I concur.
>> Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
>> Maybe it will work somehow or other.
>>
>> Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
>> a few things.
>>
>> It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.
>>
>> Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu
>>
>> "Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor Unknown Device
>> (Unsupported)"
>> "Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) Unknown Device
>> (Unsupported)"
>>
>> Both are greyed out.
>>
>> This is the latest Netstumbler 0.4.0.
>>
>> I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
>> Administrator.
>
> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
> Does work - not sure exactly if it is equivalent but it
> is from what appears to be a reputable source.
Netstumbler has never worked with Vista.
Inssider effectively uses the "netsh" command" "wlan show networks
mode=bssid"
and is taken from this project:-
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/gadgets/WifiScanner.aspx

Bod43@hotmail.co.uk
04-02-08, 01:38 PM
On 2 Apr, 16:51, LR <l...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > On 2 Apr, 15:36, Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
> >>>>> No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want to use
> >>>>> command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan whats
> >>>>> available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want something
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> detailed.
> >>>>http://wifihopper.com
> >>> Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.
> >> I concur.
> >> Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
> >> Maybe it will work somehow or other.
>
> >> Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
> >> a few things.
>
> >> It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.
>
> >> Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu
>
> >> "Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor * Unknown Device
> >> (Unsupported)"
> >> "Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) *Unknown Device
> >> (Unsupported)"
>
> >> Both are greyed out.
>
> >> This is the latest Netstumbler *0.4.0.
>
> >> I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
> >> Administrator.
>
> >http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
> > Does work - not sure exactly if it is equivalent but it
> > is from what appears to be a reputable source.
>
> Netstumbler has never worked with Vista.
> Inssider effectively uses the "netsh" command" "wlan show networks
> mode=bssid"
> and is taken from this project:-http://www.codeproject.com/KB/gadgets/WifiScanner.aspx- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I can now say that Inssider works a charm on Vista with the AR5007EG.

:-)

RH
04-05-08, 04:18 PM
<Bod43@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9dddc767-a0dc-47b5-b7c7-764e77f1e33d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On 2 Apr, 16:51, LR <l...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> > On 2 Apr, 15:36, Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> >> On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
>> >>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want
>> >>>>> to use
>> >>>>> command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan
>> >>>>> whats
>> >>>>> available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want
>> >>>>> something
>> >>>>> more
>> >>>>> detailed.
>> >>>>http://wifihopper.com
>> >>> Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.
>> >> I concur.
>> >> Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
>> >> Maybe it will work somehow or other.
>>
>> >> Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
>> >> a few things.
>>
>> >> It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.
>>
>> >> Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu
>>
>> >> "Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor Unknown Device
>> >> (Unsupported)"
>> >> "Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) Unknown Device
>> >> (Unsupported)"
>>
>> >> Both are greyed out.
>>
>> >> This is the latest Netstumbler 0.4.0.
>>
>> >> I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
>> >> Administrator.
>>
>> >http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
>> > Does work - not sure exactly if it is equivalent but it
>> > is from what appears to be a reputable source.
>>
>> Netstumbler has never worked with Vista.
>> Inssider effectively uses the "netsh" command" "wlan show networks
>> mode=bssid"
>> and is taken from this
>> project:-http://www.codeproject.com/KB/gadgets/WifiScanner.aspx- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I can now say that Inssider works a charm on Vista with the AR5007EG.
>
> :-)


Can you click the networks on there and have the computer use them to surf
the web? Sort of like kismac for the mac. I want to see whats open,then
click it and have the computer use that network,trying not to have to go to
network,connect to a network,etc. I want to be able to quickly scan where I
am at the time, and just get on a network with a click or two and not have
to make an official connection.

Bod43@hotmail.co.uk
04-08-08, 05:15 AM
On 5 Apr, 23:18, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
> <Bo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:9dddc767-a0dc-47b5-b7c7-764e77f1e33d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 2 Apr, 16:51, LR <l...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> > On 2 Apr, 15:36, Bo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> >> On 1 Apr, 13:51, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:u3o2v3ltgh6vqrmpfn2in1n3mmsaa30sc9@4ax.com...
> >> >>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:13:09 -0400, "RH" <nos...@spam.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> No,this is a new laptop,its what came installed on it.I don't want
> >> >>>>> to use
> >> >>>>> command line since I am mobile with this,I want to be able to scan
> >> >>>>> whats
> >> >>>>> available and hook up to it.The windows tool is ok,but I want
> >> >>>>> something
> >> >>>>> more
> >> >>>>> detailed.
> >> >>>>http://wifihopper.com
> >> >>> Wifihopper nor netstumbler will work with this adapter.
> >> >> I concur.
> >> >> Well I would say [does not work with adaptor].
> >> >> Maybe it will work somehow or other.
>
> >> >> Since I have the exact same adaptor and Vista and I too am trying
> >> >> a few things.
>
> >> >> It works fine as a normal wireless card and I can connect.
>
> >> >> Netstumbler lists it in it's Device menu
>
> >> >> "Atheros AR5007EG wireless Network Adaptor Unknown Device
> >> >> (Unsupported)"
> >> >> "Realtek RTL81.......Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6) Unknown Device
> >> >> (Unsupported)"
>
> >> >> Both are greyed out.
>
> >> >> This is the latest Netstumbler 0.4.0.
>
> >> >> I installed it as a User I think and I have tried running it as
> >> >> Administrator.
>
> >> >http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
> >> > Does work - not sure exactly if it is equivalent but it
> >> > is from what appears to be a reputable source.
>
> >> Netstumbler has never worked with Vista.
> >> Inssider effectively uses the "netsh" command" "wlan show networks
> >> mode=bssid"
> >> and is taken from this
> >> project:-http://www.codeproject.com/KB/gadgets/WifiScanner.aspx-Hide
> >> quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I can now say that Inssider works a charm on Vista with the AR5007EG.
>
> > :-)
>
> Can you click the networks on there and have the computer use them to surf
> the web? Sort of like kismac for the mac. I want to see whats open,then
> click it and have the computer use that network,trying not to have to go to
> network,connect to a network,etc. I want to be able to quickly scan where I
> am at the time, and just get on a network with a click or two and not have
> to make an official connection.- Hide quoted text -
>

No it just displays the "signal strength" as reported by Windows
on a graph that looks similar to NetStumbler.

Otherwise it is dumb.