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ToddAndMargo
03-28-08, 04:08 PM
Hi All,

I need help solving a mystery.

I have a customer with a laptop and a desktop.
They are connected together and to the Internet
through a wireless network. Both can
surf the Internet perfectly.

The AP/Router is a USR 5461 with the latest
firmware; the laptop is a Centrino (with the Intel
wireless card); the desktop is Ethernet connected
to an external D-Link DWL-3150, 802.11g Wireless G Bridge.

The desktop use to have an internal USR5417
PCI adapter, but I removed it after the USR driver
crashed winsock. (USR makes really crappy drivers.)
There was no symptom change after switching to
the (external) D-Link DWL-3150

The printer to be shared is on the desktop.
Both computers are XP-Pro-SP2.

I have both TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.
Both workgroup names are identical)

When I connected the two computers directly
together with an Ethernet crossover cable,
I can print perfectly over the crossover cable
from the laptop to the desktop. And,
I can do this with both computers
security software running. So far so good.

But, when I re-hook the wireless, neither
can see each other, with or without both firewalls
and antivirus on or off. They can not see
each other in network browse -- they only see
themselves. I can not force the issue with "search" and
manually placing each other name in the the search
field.

In the laptop's printer server properties, I
can not manually add a port with the path
to the desktop's printer.

Editorial comment: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I am suspecting the USR 5461. But, I really
don't want to invest in a replacement (D-Link DIR-655)
until I know for sure.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Many thanks,
-T

LR
03-28-08, 04:17 PM
ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I need help solving a mystery.
>
> I have a customer with a laptop and a desktop.
> They are connected together and to the Internet
> through a wireless network. Both can
> surf the Internet perfectly.
>
> The AP/Router is a USR 5461 with the latest
> firmware; the laptop is a Centrino (with the Intel
> wireless card); the desktop is Ethernet connected
> to an external D-Link DWL-3150, 802.11g Wireless G Bridge.
>
> The desktop use to have an internal USR5417
> PCI adapter, but I removed it after the USR driver
> crashed winsock. (USR makes really crappy drivers.)
> There was no symptom change after switching to
> the (external) D-Link DWL-3150
>
> The printer to be shared is on the desktop.
> Both computers are XP-Pro-SP2.
>
> I have both TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.
> Both workgroup names are identical)
>
> When I connected the two computers directly
> together with an Ethernet crossover cable,
> I can print perfectly over the crossover cable
> from the laptop to the desktop. And,
> I can do this with both computers
> security software running. So far so good.
>
> But, when I re-hook the wireless, neither
> can see each other, with or without both firewalls
> and antivirus on or off. They can not see
> each other in network browse -- they only see
> themselves. I can not force the issue with "search" and
> manually placing each other name in the the search
> field.
>
> In the laptop's printer server properties, I
> can not manually add a port with the path
> to the desktop's printer.
>
> Editorial comment: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
>
> I am suspecting the USR 5461. But, I really
> don't want to invest in a replacement (D-Link DIR-655)
> until I know for sure.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T
>
>
>
>
Check that the "AP isolation" box is not checked in the wireless config
for the USR5461.

ToddAndMargo
03-28-08, 04:41 PM
LR wrote:
> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I need help solving a mystery.
>>
>> I have a customer with a laptop and a desktop.
>> They are connected together and to the Internet
>> through a wireless network. Both can
>> surf the Internet perfectly.
>>
>> The AP/Router is a USR 5461 with the latest
>> firmware; the laptop is a Centrino (with the Intel
>> wireless card); the desktop is Ethernet connected
>> to an external D-Link DWL-3150, 802.11g Wireless G Bridge.
>>
>> The desktop use to have an internal USR5417
>> PCI adapter, but I removed it after the USR driver
>> crashed winsock. (USR makes really crappy drivers.)
>> There was no symptom change after switching to
>> the (external) D-Link DWL-3150
>>
>> The printer to be shared is on the desktop.
>> Both computers are XP-Pro-SP2.
>>
>> I have both TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.
>> Both workgroup names are identical)
>>
>> When I connected the two computers directly
>> together with an Ethernet crossover cable,
>> I can print perfectly over the crossover cable
>> from the laptop to the desktop. And,
>> I can do this with both computers
>> security software running. So far so good.
>>
>> But, when I re-hook the wireless, neither
>> can see each other, with or without both firewalls
>> and antivirus on or off. They can not see
>> each other in network browse -- they only see
>> themselves. I can not force the issue with "search" and
>> manually placing each other name in the the search
>> field.
>>
>> In the laptop's printer server properties, I
>> can not manually add a port with the path
>> to the desktop's printer.
>>
>> Editorial comment: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
>>
>> I am suspecting the USR 5461. But, I really
>> don't want to invest in a replacement (D-Link DIR-655)
>> until I know for sure.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Check that the "AP isolation" box is not checked in the wireless config
> for the USR5461.

I found it in the manual:

http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/wireless.html

Now, I will have to call the customer and see if it
is checked.

Thank you!

-T

ToddAndMargo
04-27-08, 10:01 PM
ToddAndMargo wrote:
> LR wrote:
>> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I need help solving a mystery.
>>>
>>> I have a customer with a laptop and a desktop.
>>> They are connected together and to the Internet
>>> through a wireless network. Both can
>>> surf the Internet perfectly.
>>>
>>> The AP/Router is a USR 5461 with the latest
>>> firmware; the laptop is a Centrino (with the Intel
>>> wireless card); the desktop is Ethernet connected
>>> to an external D-Link DWL-3150, 802.11g Wireless G Bridge.
>>>
>>> The desktop use to have an internal USR5417
>>> PCI adapter, but I removed it after the USR driver
>>> crashed winsock. (USR makes really crappy drivers.)
>>> There was no symptom change after switching to
>>> the (external) D-Link DWL-3150
>>>
>>> The printer to be shared is on the desktop.
>>> Both computers are XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>
>>> I have both TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.
>>> Both workgroup names are identical)
>>>
>>> When I connected the two computers directly
>>> together with an Ethernet crossover cable,
>>> I can print perfectly over the crossover cable
>>> from the laptop to the desktop. And,
>>> I can do this with both computers
>>> security software running. So far so good.
>>>
>>> But, when I re-hook the wireless, neither
>>> can see each other, with or without both firewalls
>>> and antivirus on or off. They can not see
>>> each other in network browse -- they only see
>>> themselves. I can not force the issue with "search" and
>>> manually placing each other name in the the search
>>> field.
>>>
>>> In the laptop's printer server properties, I
>>> can not manually add a port with the path
>>> to the desktop's printer.
>>>
>>> Editorial comment: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
>>>
>>> I am suspecting the USR 5461. But, I really
>>> don't want to invest in a replacement (D-Link DIR-655)
>>> until I know for sure.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Check that the "AP isolation" box is not checked in the wireless
>> config for the USR5461.
>
> I found it in the manual:
>
> http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/wireless.html
>
> Now, I will have to call the customer and see if it
> is checked.
>
> Thank you!
>
> -T

Hi All,

The "AP isolation" was not checked. I even tried it
checked and unchecked.

So, I replaced the USR 5461 with a D-Link DWG655 and
problem solved.

It is a pity: USR use to make such nice products.

-T

Worn Out Retread
04-29-08, 09:50 AM
"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@NoSpam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g6bRj.2258$e26.695@trnddc02...
> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> LR wrote:
>>> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I need help solving a mystery.
>>>>
>>>> I have a customer with a laptop and a desktop.
>>>> They are connected together and to the Internet
>>>> through a wireless network. Both can
>>>> surf the Internet perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> The AP/Router is a USR 5461 with the latest
>>>> firmware; the laptop is a Centrino (with the Intel
>>>> wireless card); the desktop is Ethernet connected
>>>> to an external D-Link DWL-3150, 802.11g Wireless G Bridge.
>>>>
>>>> The desktop use to have an internal USR5417
>>>> PCI adapter, but I removed it after the USR driver
>>>> crashed winsock. (USR makes really crappy drivers.)
>>>> There was no symptom change after switching to
>>>> the (external) D-Link DWL-3150
>>>>
>>>> The printer to be shared is on the desktop.
>>>> Both computers are XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>
>>>> I have both TCP/IP and NetBEUI installed.
>>>> Both workgroup names are identical)
>>>>
>>>> When I connected the two computers directly
>>>> together with an Ethernet crossover cable,
>>>> I can print perfectly over the crossover cable
>>>> from the laptop to the desktop. And,
>>>> I can do this with both computers
>>>> security software running. So far so good.
>>>>
>>>> But, when I re-hook the wireless, neither
>>>> can see each other, with or without both firewalls
>>>> and antivirus on or off. They can not see
>>>> each other in network browse -- they only see
>>>> themselves. I can not force the issue with "search" and
>>>> manually placing each other name in the the search
>>>> field.
>>>>
>>>> In the laptop's printer server properties, I
>>>> can not manually add a port with the path
>>>> to the desktop's printer.
>>>>
>>>> Editorial comment: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I am suspecting the USR 5461. But, I really
>>>> don't want to invest in a replacement (D-Link DIR-655)
>>>> until I know for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> -T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Check that the "AP isolation" box is not checked in the wireless config
>>> for the USR5461.
>>
>> I found it in the manual:
>>
>> http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/wireless.html
>>
>> Now, I will have to call the customer and see if it
>> is checked.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> -T
>
> Hi All,
>
> The "AP isolation" was not checked. I even tried it
> checked and unchecked.
>
> So, I replaced the USR 5461 with a D-Link DWG655 and
> problem solved.
>
> It is a pity: USR use to make such nice products.
>
> -T
You might like to visit the Pure Networks site www.networkmagic.com . I
found their software quite good and I believe there is a trial software that
you can download. I had no problem at all locating all of the printers with
this software on my home network.
--
Ron P

If we are what we eat then: I'm fast,
cheap and easy

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