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TonyT
09-25-00, 03:18 PM
I like IE 5+ the best so far. Based upon my personal testing I have found it to be the fastest browser to render graphics ao fully load pages.

I also have NS 4.08 stand alone browser for use in testing html compatabilies. I had the full Communicator package but trashed it cause it took over my default settings even though I told it not to upon install! Took an hour of registry editing to get rid of it all & restore my settings.

I will try the newest NS versions IF they release a stand alone browser again.

The other reason I like IE best is that 85% of all web surfers use some version of IE, which makes for easier html coding. I am not concerned that the 10% of web surfers (NS users) can't see my pages as they were meant to be seen.

Cable Guy
09-25-00, 03:37 PM
IE 5.5!

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Battleship
09-25-00, 03:38 PM
IE 5.5. Lot of talk about how it screws up peoples PC's but I have had nothing but good luck with it so far.

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ssjDoh
09-25-00, 03:40 PM
IE 5.5, unlike Netscape, it doesn't choke on java!

lalumart
09-25-00, 03:59 PM
O dont know about opera but i know for shur that Neo Planet uses I.E for the commands so it's the same expet with themes.

Prey521
09-25-00, 04:08 PM
If Opera weren't such a pain to configure, then it would be my numba 1 pick. IE 5.5 just edges out Opera, BARELY. Netscape aint even in the picture.

MailmanX
09-25-00, 04:13 PM
I like IE for the main reason that it handles keyboard commands better than Netscape. In that past, I have used the "AutoMate" macro program to record surfing macros using keyboard commands. They don't work worth a damn in Netscape but are flawless in IE.

Even something as simple as filling out a box in a webpage and pressing enter in Netscape often won't automatically select and press the "GO" button like it will in IE.

Blitz
09-25-00, 06:24 PM
To be honest with everyone, I've used Netscape maybe 2-3 times in my life. Thats cuz all my friends got IE...as do I...I mean, it came with Win98, so why not use it? As long as it opens webpages, I don't care what browser I use...and IE is doing just fine for me http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif (IE 4..and now Im using IE 5)
http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

striderf1
09-25-00, 07:00 PM
i use ie5, but if opera had java support and a few other things i would use that, opera has great potential, i hope they bring it up to par soon

Stef
09-25-00, 07:13 PM
I dont use IE at all, it follows the same basic "computers for dummies" concept that Microsoft has been pushing for years. Not too mention that it uses its TCP wrappers as a back door entrace into the Windows platform.

Sadly enough, Netscape has been falling behind lately, but that's what happens when you face a software monopoly.

But, if your a Netscape enthusiasist you can tweak it as well as IE or even better, just check out a couple of tweaks that where posted on the Speedcorp/Netscape forum:
http://www.speedcorp.net/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000015.html
http://www.speedcorp.net/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000005.html

In the end my vote goes for the Galeon, Galeon is the open-source version of Netscape PR6. Loads pages a lot faster then IE or netscape with speed tweaks, easy to surf with and renders images and tables well. Only its for Linux users leaving the majority (Windows users) behind http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Although, I do recomend one browser for the Windows platform, surf over to www.sun.com (http://www.sun.com) and pick up a beta copy of HotJava. HotJava is similar to Opera but its completly free and written by the Java experts, Sun Microsystems http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

rbrescia
09-25-00, 07:32 PM
I've been pretty loyale to IE but for the last 3 weeks I've been using the Netscape 6.0 PR2 and when the final version does come out I'll be a Netscape man, cause it really kicks *ss

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Prey521
09-25-00, 08:37 PM
I think that the new Netscape GUI is horrendous, YUCK. But I heard that its gonna have customizable skins, so that should be pretty cool.

legalmind
09-25-00, 11:34 PM
IE5.5,5.01 and 5. Sorry,Iuse all three.

John
09-25-00, 11:59 PM
IE 5.00.3103.1000

brassmonkey
09-26-00, 12:46 AM
I know there have been some similar threads like this lately, but most of them turn into a lot of people thinking they are cool and saying "Microsoft Sucks!" or "Opera Rules!" and not really saying why...

I think the majority of people (including me) think that IE has been better than Netscape for the last 2+ years, but I think things are getting interesting again with Netscape 6, Opera, and even quasi-new browser "environments" like Neoplanet and the MSN Explorer...

I would like to know:
- Which browser is your favorite?
- What *features* are most important to you that make it your favorite?
- What *features* do you not like about some of the other browsers that make you not use them?

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brassmonkey
09-26-00, 05:56 PM
Thanks for the good responses so far everyone... Keep 'em coming... http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/smile.gif

I deal with browser issues all the time in my job developing web sites, so I was interested to hear what you all thought about the functionality without all the bashing...

I've used pretty much every version of Netscape and IE since the beginning and have found IE to be the superior product since 4.0. The rendering engine beats the hell out of the Netscape (pre-6 anyhow)... For those developers out there, the Document Object Model also kicks azz but unfortunately it's difficult to use any advanced features like that due to the need to accomodate Netscape and older versions... I also like some of the bells and whistles in IE like the new Print Preview, some of the offline capabilities (though I think the active desktop blows... does anyone use that?), and the ability to customize the UI.

I also think the Netscape 6 UI is horrendous... although MSN Explorer looks very similar, what with the "sidebar" and all that junk built in, so maybe it's something that "newbie" users really like, though I can't imagine why.

I've found Opera to be an interesting new choice, but like Prey said difficult to configure and I can't really figure out what it really offers that IE doesn't...

I'm also interested to check out the Sun Browser - thanks for the good recs Stef!

Stef
09-26-00, 08:44 PM
Since your interrested I looked up a few links for you http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

HotJava related info:
http://java.sun.com/docs/white/langenv/HotJava.doc.html#293
http://java.sun.com/products/hotjava/

Remeber, HotJava is still a work in progress. I found that the Windows version had a few bugs with it, the Linux version runs pretty stable. I think thats cause both platform use different Java runtime environments.

Galeon home page: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/

Galeon is the best and most stable web browser for Linux so far, only, its made for the Gnome desktop http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/frown.gif If it ever gets ported over to Windows IE will die. You can quote me on that one!!

Mozilla home page http://www.mozilla.org/

Mozilla isnt bad, but its not good either!!

Mozilla and Galeon are both based off of the Netscape PRR 6 engine. Also, Netscape has teamed up with Sun Microsystem in writting new java code for their browser. I think, with the help of the open sourced community and Sun Microsystem, Netscape will once again ride the top of the binary wave http://www.speedguide.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Pitch
09-30-00, 02:58 AM
I use both Internet Explorer (v. 5.01) and Opera (v. 3.62). Among the things I like about Internet Explorer are: 1) Will open every single Web page out there. 2) Fast browser. 3) I like it's Full Screen feature. 4) Rarely ever crashes (I know, it's probably not what the majority of its users say). 5) I really like its Send a Link and Send Page features. Now, one thing I wish it could be, is a little smaller - it takes up quite a bit of space. What I like about Opera is: 1) Very fast browser (1 1/2 times faster than Internet Explorer - just my opinion). 2) I really, really like how one can open multiple Web pages in the browser. 3) I think the way one can toggle images on and off just by clicking the Toggle icon at the bottom is pretty cool. 4) Very small size (less than 2MB without Java). 5) Uses less Memory than Internet Explorer (checked this with Norton Utilities System Information). Also, Opera (v. 3.62) does have Java support through a plugin and the newest version (4.0) can be obtained with full Java support. As far as being difficult to configure, the only configuration difficulty I found was with the installation of the different types of plugins (eg. Quicktime, Real Player, Shockwave, etc.) I've used Netscape and have found it to be too slow in comparison to Internet Explorer and Opera. Other than that, I think it's a good browser. Recently, I've been looking into other browsers and have run into a couple that look pretty good, but require that you already have Internet Explorer installed, install/update system files or, they want you to have these different kinds "Runtimes" installed. I don't put programs or files into my computer unless they are necessary. Anyway, that's about it.

64bit
10-08-00, 05:34 AM
IE 5 V:5.00.2919.6307

5.5 need a Service pack on the double!!

Zporttech
10-08-00, 09:26 AM
IE 5.5. After I first upgraded it had a few problems. But since I have formatted and used it without problems with 98SE and Now ME and 2000.

I used to be a Big Netscape fan but lately seems they have been falling way behind. The last vesion I used was 4.6. But I will checkout version 6 after it`s final release just to say I did.

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dreww71
10-08-00, 01:32 PM
I used to be a netscape fan, but after I got 4.7 web pages would quite frequently not load when I was using my usr 33.6 modem. So I switched to IE 5 and everything was fine. I now have DSL and IE 5.5 and after initial problems with web pages taking forever to load, it now works great.

striderf1
10-08-00, 02:19 PM
Opera rules, use it for everything now that you have java, only use IE when opera doesn't support it, i'm now using opera 4.02, rock solid fast as a bullet. Just my 2 cents

eyeball
10-10-00, 12:38 AM
i'm another faithful ie5.5 user.. dont like netscape one bit.. the toolbar isnt as configurable, too damn slow (takes 45 secs to load, not including java), and the bookmarks have to be accessed via a worthless sub-menu, not to mention the pointless bookmarks that are pre-packaged with it. ie5 has many more features (iframes, more dhtml support, etc), and what i do almost REQUIRES ie5, because i go to many 'advanced' sites that load lots of ie5-specific features, not to mention its used by the majority of web browsers anyway. i have never bothered to use opera because i dont want to be missing stuff that i would otherwise see on ie5-specific sites.

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rbrescia
10-10-00, 01:06 AM
Right now I'm using IE 5.0, tried 5.5 and thought it was slooooooooow and buggy. For the last week or so I've been using Netscape 6.0 PR3 and I think the final product is going to make me forget about IE.

dust-83
10-15-00, 07:51 PM
Internet Explorer 5

joker12578
10-20-00, 05:52 PM
yea, sure IE 5. My @ss!!!!!!!!!
you all just love that blue screen of death dont you. That's a ie error. or those nice little error that shut down all the windows your in, when you wish you had book marked one, TO LATE! I use IE be/c IM to lazy to spend the 5hrs it would take me to figer out how to remove it be/c with win98 that's not going to be a walk in the park. IE is inbeded into windows, its not your chose you never had one, bill gates made it for. Said he wants you to use his brower and thats the end of it. LOL well, he paying for it now some what. Yea, never had any probs with IE? what do you think all those errors are. Every error I have had that made me restart or took me more then 60secs to fix was BE/c OF IE. Think about it a computer with netscape never had those little probs.

Biggy
10-20-00, 06:45 PM
IE 5.5 second to none!

FunK
10-23-00, 11:53 AM
Sorry to see all your bad experiences with IE Joker. I have done a couple of searches on yout topics and almost all of them are about IE and how you get BSOD.
That really is a shame.
But to see that you still use IE is almost funny. If you have THAT many problems with it, why not use netscape?
It seems that you are happy with it since you still use it. Or is it that you hate AOL SOOOOOOOOO much that you won't use netscape either.
We all told ya how to try and avoid your BSOD.
Did you ever think that your IE (on your computer restore disk) is bad? If it was an IE bug, the rest of the world would constantly have the same problems.
Anyway, I just think that you shouldn't complain so much about IE if your not going to do anything to avoid the problems.

I use IE 5.5, IE 5, and Netscape (in Linux).
I think IE 5.5 is the best of them all.

Peace,
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jinglipuff
10-25-00, 12:38 AM
WOW...I am sup that most people love IE so much. To be honest, I just recently start to use IE5.5 again because before this version I dont' konw why but I always get those error like joker mentioned. so got no choice to use Netscape. But now I have Varizon DSL, somehow I am much more satisfy with IE5.5 and I get more error with Netscape.

crazyman
10-25-00, 01:25 AM
I like IE,I think that it's more integrated into some of the apps that i use more than any other browser would be.like office and money.and besides contrary to popular belief,I like microsoft products and use them proudly and I don't snivel about gates and his products.any way I think IE(5.01 and 5.5) which I use both of is a superior browser.I also think that 5.0 is a better version.I'm sure that this post will get some fired-up replies.and I agree with funk,I think anyone who has problems with IE,has problems with the app or elsewhere in the OS,if you maintain your system properly you should not have any problems with IE,I don't have any problems with 3 pc's and 3 different versions of IE,by the way,I use 3 different versions intentionally.

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Kelly again
07-13-04, 05:57 PM
I vote for Firefox.

It's new, and I am "new to Firefox" so to speak, but so far I find it to be absolutely awesome!!!

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

and it's not hard to switch from IE to firefox, because firefox will import your Favorites list. just choose "File" in the menu bar, then "Import"

crossconnects
07-13-04, 08:25 PM
Microsoft sat on their laurels too long and set stuff up in their browser code that is not easily changed. now they have been passed by several other browsers and the security holes have gotten huge.

I use firefox.

mnosteele52
07-13-04, 08:28 PM
UHHHH could you guys find an older thread LOL.

:rotfl: :nope:

Big-Dave
07-13-04, 08:51 PM
Firefox all the way works awesome especially for a pre-release version.

CableDude
07-13-04, 08:53 PM
Netscape.










:D

YeOldeStonecat
07-13-04, 09:01 PM
UHHHH could you guys find an older thread LOL.

:rotfl: :nope:

:D I still don't think anybody has noticed...

TrevGlas
07-13-04, 09:20 PM
I did... this thread started about IE 5.5.. jesus man

BTW Opera 7.52 and Firefox 0.9 smoke IE

Opera 7.52 is the fastest browser I have used.. on EVERY sight i have used.

I only use IE for windows update

YARDofSTUF
07-14-04, 03:27 AM
I use Firefox and IE

skram0
11-11-04, 07:47 PM
firefox

Norm
11-11-04, 07:58 PM
Still haven't found anything I would rather use than IE

All browsers have vulnerabilities. It's the most popular browser that gets the attention of the exploiters.

Firefox's vulnerabilities will be exploited soon enough.

CableDude
11-11-04, 08:13 PM
I find myself always going back to IE

Cypher
11-11-04, 08:47 PM
Still haven't found anything I would rather use than IE

All browsers have vulnerabilities. It's the most popular browser that gets the attention of the exploiters.

Firefox's vulnerabilities will be exploited soon enough.
:nod: Just like OS's.
Still I like Firefox because of the science and all. ;)

Cable Vision
11-12-04, 10:11 AM
this is a thread for year 2000? lol.obviously Mozilla Rules

Shinobi
11-12-04, 09:31 PM
http://links.sourceforge.net/

I used Lynx a while back.. now I use Links.
Straight out of the O.S. or from remote SSH / Telnet...

Very Happy :D :thumb:

Shinobi

Gza
11-13-04, 01:15 AM
Maxthon (www.maxthon.com)

I regard it as the ideal IE. Has the compatibility of IE, with similar plugin support to Firefox. Tests have been run as well when running 20-or-so tabs open, as to which provided the best performance and used up the least amount of memory - Maxthon won, hands down (I read this somewhere on the Maxthon forums - may be biased, I know, but these people seem fair in their judgements, and have indeed, like myself, given other browsers a fair chance.)

Oh, and it's free. :2cool:

YARDofSTUF
11-13-04, 03:27 AM
Maxthon (www.maxthon.com)

I regard it as the ideal IE. Has the compatibility of IE, with similar plugin support to Firefox. Tests have been run as well when running 20-or-so tabs open, as to which provided the best performance and used up the least amount of memory - Maxthon won, hands down (I read this somewhere on the Maxthon forums - may be biased, I know, but these people seem fair in their judgements, and have indeed, like myself, given other browsers a fair chance.)

Oh, and it's free. :2cool:


U need IE 5.5 or 6.0 so its just an addon, not a full browser.

Bryant
11-13-04, 05:55 PM
Internet Explorer 6


I know im going to get flamed for this...

YARDofSTUF
11-13-04, 07:46 PM
Internet Explorer 6


I know im going to get flamed for this...


Nah u wont get flamed for picking the 2nd best browser ;)

zooner
11-13-04, 07:55 PM
i like sitting down at the mall and watching the cuties walk by.

CableDude
11-14-04, 08:42 AM
i like sitting down at the mall and watching the cuties walk by.

Win. :thumb::thumb:

stevebakh
11-15-04, 10:32 AM
Still haven't found anything I would rather use than IE

All browsers have vulnerabilities. It's the most popular browser that gets the attention of the exploiters.

Firefox's vulnerabilities will be exploited soon enough.

But anyone can patch / fix vulnerabilities and send patches. It's open source. With IE, not only is it targetted the most, it's also closed sourced and doesn't comply with w3c standards. The latter reason is as good as any to avoid IE. They still haven't implemented full PNG image support. Lame. :rolleyes:

Gza
11-16-04, 04:16 PM
U need IE 5.5 or 6.0 so its just an addon, not a full browser.

True, but it has so many features that it feels like a whole new one in itself, IMO.

YARDofSTUF
11-16-04, 04:56 PM
True, but it has so many features that it feels like a whole new one in itself, IMO.


Its the same as slim browser and myie2