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Joint Chiefs of Staff
10-12-06, 11:09 PM
Question.

Are they worth purchasing. Thinking of getting one for my Liberty.

Mark
10-13-06, 04:58 PM
what is the purpose of installing one of those deals, supposed to improve power or something ???

got a link to what you are looking at ?

Joint Chiefs of Staff
10-14-06, 12:28 AM
what is the purpose of installing one of those deals, supposed to improve power or something ???

got a link to what you are looking at ?
Fuel economy and power. Let me find the link.

Joint Chiefs of Staff
10-14-06, 12:29 AM
http://www.autotrucktoys.com/liberty/Poweraid-Throttle-Body-Spacer-for-the-37-Liter-P2591C510.aspx

Prey521
10-14-06, 12:55 AM
Don't bother bro.......they were made for carb'd engines, does nothing on modern fuel injected engines, save your money and get an intake/exhaust........I, along with many other people, learned this the hardway.

Illini25
10-14-06, 09:58 AM
x2 on what Prey said JCOS. Go out and purchase a cold air intake. :thumb:

burple
10-14-06, 12:20 PM
Don't bother bro.......they were made for carb'd engines, does nothing on modern fuel injected engines, save your money and get an intake/exhaust........I, along with many other people, learned this the hardway.

Yep. On a carbed engine or a TBI engine they work because your giving more time for the air/fuel to atomize. However with fuel injected engines, fuel is added after the TB, so all your doing is putting another inch or two for the air to travel. Which inturn is actually robbing your system.

Now they do give it that swooshing sound when throttling up, but not worth the loss you get. About the best thing to do to the throttle body is a bore job, to give more airflow. But then all other things need to be calibrated and or added to allow for correct mixture.

Quickest gains as were said would be a cold air intake and flowing exhaust. Another quick and easy upgrades may be pulleys and reprogramed chip. From there you could go crazy with upgrades. lol

Prey521
10-14-06, 12:32 PM
Yeah, the swooshing sound is cool if you're into that, but not worth the loss! I want to get an exhaust setup soon. I have a modded PCM and intake so far, but the upcoming baby and my current employment status prevents me from further upgrades..................for now :D

Illini25
10-15-06, 10:47 AM
What im loving now is the high pitch sound coming from my supercharger ever since installing the CAI. :thumb: And the fall temperatures....ahhhh, much colder air getting into the engine now. I can definitely feel a power difference from the summer air to the fall air regarding engine power. :cool:

Joint Chiefs of Staff
10-16-06, 07:01 AM
save your money and get an intake/exhaust........I, along with many other people, learned this the hardway.
Have one on ordered as well. Guess it couldn't hurt to have both.

MadDoctor
10-16-06, 04:27 PM
What im loving now is the high pitch sound coming from my supercharger ever since installing the CAI. :thumb: And the fall temperatures....ahhhh, much colder air getting into the engine now. I can definitely feel a power difference from the summer air to the fall air regarding engine power. :cool:
:nod:

Joint Chiefs of Staff
11-01-06, 08:27 PM
I installed my K&B Cold Air Instake on the Liberty and saved over 1/4 of tank of gas this week. When I get back from leave I'll get the fuel injector nozzles hand cleaned and see if I get even better performance.

The increase in HP is also very noticeable. :cool:

Rainbow
11-02-06, 08:09 PM
nevermind...........

YeOldeStonecat
11-02-06, 08:25 PM
I installed my K&B Cold Air Instake on the Liberty and saved over 1/4 of tank of gas this week. When I get back from leave I'll get the fuel injector nozzles hand cleaned and see if I get even better performance.

The increase in HP is also very noticeable. :cool:

Borla or Gibson exhaust system! :thumb:

Loonatic
11-02-06, 09:49 PM
On modern vehicles, a catback, intake system and good tune will go a long way in improving the vehicle.

My car stock will usually run 14.8-15.1. With a pulley swap, intake, exhaust and raised shift points, I ran a 13.9 @ 100mph. This is in a Buick Regal mind you.

Illini25
11-03-06, 07:27 AM
Patrick...it's too bad you dont get the cold winter air where you are. Even a bigger difference in power. Only benefit of the cold that I can deal with, LOL. Other than that, I still hate the cold. :irate: 19f this morning. :(

Prey521
11-03-06, 07:33 PM
I love the winter cold for driving, but hate the fact that they pour extra ethanol into gas during the winter, kills the gas mileage.