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Prey521
04-12-06, 12:01 PM
What's your breaking point? How high does gas have to get before you say enough is enough and start riding a bike or you sell your car and get a mini compact car. There've been many failed attemps to boycot gas companies with no one really taking it serious cause we need our cars. But how high does it got to get before you put your foot down and take some serious changes in your gasoline usage... Gas could hit $4.00 gallon this summer...

Gas up by me is at about $2.80 and about $.20 more in the city. Trailblazer has a 22 gal tank, which normally last me 5 days due to my spirited driving :D Now i've been taking it easy and it's been last me 8 days, using cruise control more on the highway and staying below 70. Also after doing some research, I ignored the tire PSI rating for the factory tires (30/35) and made them 40/40, with the max PSI being 45. Gas mileage went up, and acceleration is smoother, though at the price of a slightly rougher ride. I don't regret getting the TB, since it's been giving me very good gas mileage recently for it being such a large SUV. But I read somewhere something about $5+ per gallon. Now if it got that bad, I would have to get rid of the DVR/HD cable box, get regular cable and chop down the bandwidth on my ISP :rotfl:

NOT driving isn't an option for me, since driving is what gets me to my paycheck........

Exxon just past Walmart on the Fortune 500 list and is now # 1, gee, I wonder why? :rolleyes: Def some price gouging going on!! :mad:

Zilog B
04-12-06, 12:15 PM
At current prices I think we spend about $140 a month on gas, it's definitely eating into our fun money. Hope prices drop but I know it's not likely. I'm really lucky because I have a company vehicle to drive to and from work, that probably saves me $75 a month in gas. Not to mention wear & tear on my vehicle.

Prey521
04-12-06, 12:22 PM
We spend about 160 a month on my car alone, then my wifes car is another 140, and her daily commute is about double of mine. Will def take less trips into the city on the weekends, gonna have to find myself a local church LOL

thepieman
04-12-06, 12:26 PM
Almost 1 year no car. No gas pump , no insurance premiums(175 month), no registration fees, no inspection fees for me.


Pie

Zilog B
04-12-06, 12:27 PM
Almost 1 year no car. No gas pump , no insurance premiums(175 month), no registration fees, no inspection fees for me.


Pie


I wish I could pull that off.

Kyle
04-12-06, 12:30 PM
We spend about 160 a month on my car alone, then my wifes car is another 140, and her daily commute is about double of mine.

So your big manly Trailblazer costs over 2 times as much to drive? How about getting a more reasonable vehicle and then you can start complaining. ;)

Gas will not go down, when does the price of any highly demanded commodity ever go down? Sure you may get a few cents here or there but overall it's just going to continue to climb. :nod:

aagiants
04-12-06, 12:40 PM
gas will have to be like 3.5-4.5 for me to affect my driving habits. I drive like 100/120 miles a week, so i fill up 2/3 times a month.

YARDofSTUF
04-12-06, 12:42 PM
i average at about 100 per month

Prey521
04-12-06, 12:42 PM
So your big manly Trailblazer costs over 2 times as much to drive? How about getting a more reasonable vehicle and then you can start complaining. ;)

Gas will not go down, when does the price of any highly demanded commodity ever go down? Sure you may get a few cents here or there but overall it's just going to continue to climb. :nod:
LOL, I wouldn't give it up unless it was time for a new car. And I don't pay that much more for the TB than I do for the 4 cylinder Altima that the wife drives. I'd be complaining even if I had a 4 banger that got 30+ MPG....the point is that a price jump of $.50 in a span of about 3 weeks is insane.

Roody
04-12-06, 12:49 PM
Almost 1 year no car. No gas pump , no insurance premiums(175 month), no registration fees, no inspection fees for me.


Pie

Not quite as lucky as you, but the wife and I both walk to work so our bill is significantly less then most.

Prey521
04-12-06, 12:56 PM
My wife and I take the same route to work, only she gets off 2 exits after me. Considering just taking 1 car to work, she drops me off at my job, and she continues on to hers, and she picks me up in the afternoon, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lefty
04-12-06, 01:21 PM
I live a mile from work and 3/8 mile from my happy hour spot. I dont spend much on gas, I fill up once a month, sometimes get 5 weeks out of a tank. Winter a little more because of longer idle. My 2001 car has only 34k miles on it. My old ladies car otoh is her shopping/soccer mom car which has 10k on it and its a 2005. Our long trips will be hampered by gas prices. We may even have to drop our daughter's paper route unless they can give her one near home. Not worth the gas.

Bastid
04-12-06, 01:42 PM
independant contractor/courier here... doin about $200 bux a week...and thats just fuel... im about done with this job because of the prices... i can work just about anywhere and make about the same amount im "bringing home"...


please someone, let me know when the revolution is comes!

Kyle
04-12-06, 02:18 PM
My wife and I take the same route to work, only she gets off 2 exits after me. Considering just taking 1 car to work, she drops me off at my job, and she continues on to hers, and she picks me up in the afternoon, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Now you're thinking! Even if it wasn't every day, every bit helps. :thumb:

Zilog B
04-12-06, 02:27 PM
Check this guy out LOL!

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/060412/1271956.html?.v=1

YeOldeStonecat
04-12-06, 02:30 PM
Check this guy out LOL!

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/060412/1271956.html?.v=1

Heh...Cisco engineer...wonder what his Porsche or BMW M series gets for mileage.

Prey521
04-12-06, 02:32 PM
Couldn't pay me enough to commute 7 hrs a day.

Chris
04-12-06, 02:36 PM
I'm thinkin of goin on Welfare like some of the scum that lives near me. In the yard with a box of beer by 10 am. In the house when the sun goes down, go to bed, wake up and do it all again.
When they run out of beer, the taxi cab delivery service is just a phone call away.

minir
04-12-06, 03:01 PM
Hi Prey

They've just busted our cherry at $1 buck a litre here. Acceptance is slowly coming around on that point, now watch as it climbs to $1.50 over the next few months.

This while the Oil Companies are wallowing in obscene profits which is unconscionable imho

Diesels are the future me thinks.
--

minir

MissTynker2
04-12-06, 03:33 PM
Not driving is also not an option for me. Since I still live in the boondocks, there is no public transportation in this area. I could drive the ten miles into town to make use of it, however some of my work locations are also not on their route or even close. I also have to have that flexibility for my patients, so not much choice!

Gas in our area rose 14 cents in the last two days. What I can and have done about it is to organize my driving trips a bit better, and map out a route for doing several chores at one time. I try to do my running for all supplies, etc. once a week, and make a loop so to speak of the places I need to go...thus cutting down mileage, gas use and employing a much more direct path...thus eliminating criss crossing, extra miles etc. It's maddening!!

YARDofSTUF
04-12-06, 03:33 PM
Hi Prey

They've just busted our cherry at $1 buck a litre here. Acceptance is slowly coming around on that point, now watch as it climbs to $1.50 over the next few months.

This while the Oil Companies are wallowing in obscene profits which is unconscionable imho

Diesels are the future me thinks.
--

minir


Bio deisel, run a resturant and use the french fry oil for your car :thumb: lol

koldchillah
04-12-06, 04:43 PM
$1.75 /gal was my breaking point. After that, I began cutting down on discretionary spending and driving as little as possible. (read "little as possible" as 22,000 miles/yr) I guess cutting out extra spending altogether is next. :nod:

I'm no economist, but the way I see it, for every extra penny I pay at the pump, there is one less penny for me to put back into the rest of the economy. Someday after the long-term economic effects of all this oil inflation really sets in and we find our country on the virge of another major depression, Uncle Sam will begin to ask why so many markets went down the tubes.

Oops, sorry Uncle Sam, I tried to go out and spend money in the plethora of discretionary markets available to me in this fine country, but I just don't seem to have the extra money available anymore. Oh well, don't frown Uncle Sam, you may be able to sell your discretionary goods & services to someone else overseas or to those who are wealthier than I. We still have a lot of wealthy people in this country, right Uncle Sam? Huh? Whats that? The rich people are losing money too because their markets are declining? Sorry to hear that Uncle Sam, but you might want to go see why those in the oil markets are still smiling so big while the vast majority of us are now spending so little on discretionary goods & services.

The point I'm getting at: Nothing will matter and nothing will change until the wealthiest pockets begin to feel the pinch and long before the wealthy folks feel the pinch, those financially below them will be squeezed right out of the picture and left to fend for themselves, hence the reason I believe this mess will eventually spiral out of control.

<<<looks out window at suspicious black van parked outside>>>

Then again, I'm probably thinking way too into all this and in reality everything is going to be peachy and I'll still have beer and ice cream in my fridge forever, w00t!!

LONG LIVE BEER AND ICE CREAM!! :thumb: :D

<<<looks out window again as black van pulls away>>>> :wth:

Sava700
04-12-06, 04:56 PM
You have to have it.. and the oil companies are blaming the auto industry for not making better vehicals that use less and the auto industry is blaming the oil companies for making huge profits and not relaxing the price.. I'm sorry but I think the auto industry is right and 20+ BILLION in a profit is going where????????

YARDofSTUF
04-12-06, 04:58 PM
You have to have it.. and the oil companies are blaming the auto industry for not making better vehicals that use less and the auto industry is blaming the oil companies for making huge profits and not relaxing the price.. I'm sorry but I think the auto industry is right and 20+ BILLION in a profit is going where????????


To pay people to vacation and think of ways to rob comsumers.

Kyle
04-12-06, 05:02 PM
You have to have it.. and the oil companies are blaming the auto industry for not making better vehicals that use less and the auto industry is blaming the oil companies for making huge profits and not relaxing the price.. I'm sorry but I think the auto industry is right and 20+ BILLION in a profit is going where????????

Don't forget that MUCH higher fuel efficiency has been more than possible for decades but those device patents are held by the oil industry, of course.

koldchillah
04-12-06, 05:40 PM
GM & Ford already make and sell thousands of popular model cars, SUV's & trucks that run on cheaper alternative feuls, they just build them and sell them in other countries that can't quite afford normal gas prices.

In Argentina, when you're not driving behind a Pugueot taxi or a Fiat, you are most likely behind a Ford Focus or Chevy "1.8L Turbo" Blazer running on alternative fuel.

Joint Chiefs of Staff
04-12-06, 07:51 PM
When they run out of beer, the taxi cab delivery service is just a phone call away.LOL Hey I've used that service in Cape Breton back in the day but that was because I couldn't drive due to drinking.

loop2kil
04-13-06, 01:45 AM
Got rid of my Tundra for a Scion tC mostly because of the gas prices....I have a ~500 mi/wk commute.

7thkevin
04-13-06, 01:53 AM
its like 2.89$/gal here

blebs
04-13-06, 08:39 AM
Hi Prey

They've just busted our cherry at $1 buck a litre here. Acceptance is slowly coming around on that point, now watch as it climbs to $1.50 over the next few months.

This while the Oil Companies are wallowing in obscene profits which is unconscionable imho

Diesels are the future me thinks.
--

minir
Down here, Diesel is more expensive then regular gas, so your not winning at all.

Prey521
04-13-06, 08:42 AM
Drove together to work with the wife today, dear Lord will this be torture. She's not a morning person and always cranky in the AM.....got to work 10 min's late. Only going to this 2-3 times per week.

downhill
04-13-06, 08:54 AM
There are a few things you can do besides trying to consume less gas.

First, write your congressmen and ask them why in all the years they knew this was coming, they didn't stand up to the auto industry and insist on better gas mileage instead of relaxing the standards under Bush II.

Ask why they haven't insisted on stiffer energy conservation laws over the past 30 years.

Ask them why they haven't insisted on more funds into alternative forms of energy. Especially those with less green house gas emissions.

Lastly, ask them cowards why they didn't take Cheney to task over his closed door energy sessions 6 years ago.

So far after 6 letters, I've yet to get a real response from mine, other than the typical form letter....Dear, Mr. downhill, thank you for writing to the honorable Sen. XXXXXX. Mr. XXXXXX will have to take some time to research your questions and will get back to you.

sure


Congress will only respond to two things. Money or public outcry. Throw the bums out.

KINGoFOOLS
04-13-06, 08:55 AM
When it costs $11 to fill my gsxr1000 something is wrong. :confused: They say we will be paying $3.00+ for the summer. :irate: :mad:

minir
04-13-06, 09:09 AM
Down here, Diesel is more expensive then regular gas, so your not winning at all.

--

Hi blebs

Sometimes a Nickel or Dime more, or other places less, however the difference in the Mileage is where the savings lay.

You can almost double the mileage of most Vehicles by using Diesel and also save on parts for tuneups etc. It really is a considerable savings over Gas.

A VW Golf Diesel is a very practical car and yet offers pretty close to a regular powered car performance and comfort blebs.

---

regards

minir

Roody
04-13-06, 11:03 AM
http://www.gamegeneration.net/funnypics/fart.gif

YeOldeStonecat
04-13-06, 12:56 PM
They say we will be paying $3.00+ for the summer. :irate: :mad:

Went to fill up this morning....$3.04 or $3.07 a gallon. 3-5 times a week now...it's 40 bucks to stop 'n fill.

Prey521
04-13-06, 01:02 PM
Went to fill up this morning....$3.04 or $3.07 a gallon. 3-5 times a week now...it's 40 bucks to stop 'n fill.
WOW, you drive a lot!! How big is the tank? You drive a Jeep, right? That's the price for regular?

YeOldeStonecat
04-13-06, 01:14 PM
WOW, you drive a lot!! How big is the tank? You drive a Jeep, right? That's the price for regular?


Yup I often drive a lot...it varies...some down weeks I'm not going far...but other weeks..I'll be all over the place. Past few weeks did a lot of work down around New Haven.

Gas tank in the Liberty is somewhere around 20 gallons..forget if it's 19.something or 20.something.

I drive with a relentless lead foot...90-ish everywhere...and the 3.7L in the Jeep is thirsty as heck when doing so.

Prey521
04-13-06, 01:17 PM
Ah, yeah, lead foot will win everytime LOL! I've been driving miss daisy recently and the mileage calculator on the Trailblazer stays above 23MPG on the highway, some flat stretches, will hit 27. Have been staying at or below 75 on the NY Thruway, in the right lane, watching everyone fly by me :rotfl: Sometimes I just wanna step on it and hear the intake scream, but my better judgement keeps me in check :D

Bastid
04-13-06, 01:23 PM
i know ive said it before... the Suburban has a 40 GALLON gas tank sittin under her! so, are they going to start implementing a quick-loan form at the pumps soon?

Prey521
04-13-06, 01:24 PM
i know ive said it before... the Suburban has a 40 GALLON gas tank sittin under her! so, are they going to start implementing a quick-loan form at the pumps soon?
:rotfl:

Brk
04-13-06, 01:24 PM
People will pay what they have to, because it's impossible to drive less for many of them, for myriad reasons. But the prices will always hover just at an almost unbearable level, but never to where people will rebel against it. Over time, people just get used to it, pay and go about their business.

I ain't sayin' it's right. I'm just sayin'.

Incrementalism.

$2.50 is the new $1.50!

I remember when I could get a cheeseburger, fries and shake for $6.00 and a full tank o' gas for less than $50, son!

Roody
04-13-06, 01:26 PM
People will pay what they have to, because it's impossible to drive less for many of them, for myriad reasons. But the prices will always hover just at an almost unbearable level, but never to where people will rebel against it. Over time, people just get used to it, pay and go about their business.

I ain't sayin' it's right. I'm just sayin'.

Incrementalism.

$2.50 is the new $1.50!

I remember when I could get a cheeseburger, fries and shake for $6.00 and a full tank o' gas for less than $50, son!

Shoot, I remember Atlanta in 1998 when I could fill my tank for $12. :(

westy
04-13-06, 04:43 PM
Well, my commute is 53 miles one way five days a week, which sucks. My wife is a stay at home mom but does the "normal" amount of running. I have a 97 Dodge Ram that I use to pull my boat but my commuter is a 93 Beretta V-6 that pulls 30 mpg on the freeway.

If gas hits $ 3.00 a gallon (which it will) I am going to go to a four day work week. I work 7:00 to 4:15 M-T and 7:00 to 12:00 noon on Fridays, so I can work tens M-T and hopefully get away with it.

We also have a summer place upnorth that's a 3 hour drive that we spend a lot of time at, so I'm thinking of ways to continue the trips up there and save $$.

What ya gonna do ? Deal with it I guess. It's a good job. :thumb:

KINGoFOOLS
04-19-06, 09:17 AM
ACK, it hit $3.00 a gallon...... :irate: Looking at $4.00 for the summer. :( :confused: :eek: :cry: :mad:

YeOldeStonecat
04-19-06, 09:19 AM
ACK, it hit $3.00 a gallon...... :irate: Looking at $4.00 for the summer. :( :confused: :eek: :cry: :mad:

You 'n Grimm 'r gonna have to toss in some cabbage for boat rides! :D

Prey521
04-19-06, 09:21 AM
Up to $2.93 here, my truck has been sitting for 2 days :D

Izzo
04-19-06, 09:24 AM
Up to $2.93 here, my truck has been sitting for 2 days :D


$2.85 here..........I'm so pissed.

Chris
04-19-06, 09:28 AM
Lastly, ask them cowards why they didn't take Cheney to task over his closed door energy sessions 6 years ago.

.

He can't aim worth chit, but it still hurts like a MOFO when he pulls the trigger.
Thats why they don't

Prey521
04-19-06, 09:29 AM
$2.85 here..........I'm so pissed.
Yeah, funny thing is, that now that the engine is beginning to break in, I've been seeing much better gas mileage, but nowhere near the 30 MPG of the wifes Matrix, so we're doing the whole car pool thing.

I gotta tell the boss that that $.445 per mile pay out when I travel to our branches isn't gonna cut it anymore...........

Izzo
04-19-06, 09:46 AM
Yeah, funny thing is, that now that the engine is beginning to break in, I've been seeing much better gas mileage, but nowhere near the 30 MPG of the wifes Matrix, so we're doing the whole car pool thing.

I gotta tell the boss that that $.445 per mile pay out when I travel to our branches isn't gonna cut it anymore...........


I come in to work then leave and drive basically all the way back home and then haflway across town again to get my son from school to grandma's house during lunch and then come back to work .... basically it's like 3 trips to and from work each day... then when I have class that another 30 miles round trip ....it's killing me

Prey521
04-19-06, 09:47 AM
Iz, what do you drive?

Izzo
04-19-06, 10:03 AM
Iz, what do you drive?


A VW Golf that's 10 years old and leaks oil....

Izzo
04-19-06, 10:14 AM
heh..just did the math ... I'm damn near empty right now ....I'll put in 13 gallons like usual ... be about 38 bucks :mad:

Prey521
04-19-06, 10:16 AM
The tank on the Matrix is about 12 Gals and last about a week. Filled it up the other day, cost about $28 and will last the entire work week, which isn't bad. I'll just use my gas guzzler on the weekends and to run errands after work LOL

I'm really doing this because a ton of bills just popped up that we were soooooooooooooo not expecting. Wifeys school loans all decided to kick in at the same time, and now they wan't their $$$ lol

YeOldeStonecat
04-19-06, 10:48 AM
49 bucks to fill up this morning... ugh... even though on the Company Amex...I still gotta think about it...still eventually hits me in the pocket.

YARDofSTUF
04-19-06, 11:51 AM
49 bucks to fill up this morning... ugh... even though on the Company Amex...I still gotta think about it...still eventually hits me in the pocket.


Time to buy a Vespa!

Prey521
04-21-06, 12:01 PM
The chit is beginning to hit the fan...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192579,00.html

knightmare
04-21-06, 12:33 PM
Yeah, funny thing is, that now that the engine is beginning to break in, I've been seeing much better gas mileage, but nowhere near the 30 MPG of the wifes Matrix, so we're doing the whole car pool thing.

I gotta tell the boss that that $.445 per mile pay out when I travel to our branches isn't gonna cut it anymore...........

That is the federal rate for the fisical yr, first 6 months of 06..
Sad thing is it was .48 cents a mile in Sept. 05

I have to attend a conference next weekend, 200 mile drive.
I'm asking .51 cents a mile due to recent increase.

Prey521
04-21-06, 01:43 PM
That is the federal rate for the fisical yr, first 6 months of 06..
Sad thing is it was .48 cents a mile in Sept. 05

I have to attend a conference next weekend, 200 mile drive.
I'm asking .51 cents a mile due to recent increase.
My company is sending me to work in PA on Saturday (unpaid), it's a 130 mile one way trip, so I am thinkin of askin for an increase, not sure.

I have the Fed Mileage rate site bookmarked, to keep up with any updates :D

Sava700
04-21-06, 05:00 PM
Stations around here have topped the 3$ for regular grade...and its prob going to go higher cause of a jump to 75$ in oil.. Its crazy..the gas already in the stations is there!! Its not new gas that costs more its still the same as it was before so why in the hell is the price jumping so quickly in just a few hours is what I can't figure out. We shall see 4$ by end of summer and by then everything else will jump in amounts and yet I know around here jobs are not paying as much as they need to to keep up with this major increase we have.. I see a 1920's problem on the horizon and yall know what I'm talkin about.

Prey521
04-21-06, 05:12 PM
It's illegal for gas stations to raise the price more than once in a 24 hr period, so I'm watching the station that I use like a hawk LOL

Izzo
07-25-06, 11:59 AM
It's illegal for gas stations to raise the price more than once in a 24 hr period, so I'm watching the station that I use like a hawk LOL


2.91 yesterday .....today 3.09 for 87 :irate:

Noevo
07-25-06, 12:04 PM
3.15 here in Ann Arbor Mi now for 87 :eek:

and to the thread...It will have to go up much more than it is before my driving habits change, yeah I'm not a great team player. deal with it :D

westy
07-25-06, 12:32 PM
I think it's going to get to the point where we think $ 3.00 a gallon is a good price..........

Sucks, especially when I commute 110 miles a day ! :mad: :mad: :mad:

YARDofSTUF
07-25-06, 12:38 PM
I dont even bother looking at the price anymore.

koldchillah
07-25-06, 12:39 PM
Last month's gas bill = $335
car payment = $280

:irate:

Prey521
07-25-06, 12:59 PM
I dont even bother looking at the price anymore.
Word, before, when my job would send me to a site in Jersey, or if I was on my way home from the city, and I had to cut through Jersey, I would make a point to fill up in NJ, since it's about 15-20 cents cheaper per gallon. Now, I don't even care lol

mountainman
07-25-06, 01:29 PM
Bout time to bust out the motorcycle thread again...

What kind of MPG does a normal motorcycle get?... say... 650cc or so.

Rainbow
07-25-06, 02:48 PM
I dont even bother looking at the price anymore.

Exactly, dont much matter what it is,
I average $100 week for gas:(

7thkevin
07-25-06, 02:50 PM
here near the city its 3.50$ a gal...

down sate by my girls house its like 2.50 :irate:

Prey521
07-25-06, 02:57 PM
Exactly, dont much matter what it is,
I average $100 week for gas:(
WOW!

Matrix averages about 35 per week, Trailblazer sits a lot, so like Leftys wife, it only gets filled twice a month :D

Croc
07-25-06, 03:07 PM
I use Diesel. Currently $1.34 a litre.

Just finished upgrading the scrolling price signs for one oil company. The new scrolls max out at 19 for unleaded. That equates to 199.9C per litre.
This same company also posted a way over the top record profit for the financial year just gone.

Illini25
07-25-06, 03:57 PM
Bout time to bust out the motorcycle thread again...

What kind of MPG does a normal motorcycle get?... say... 650cc or so.

Not sure exactly..but I'd say 60 or better. My 1100 gets around 50-55 mpg.

Regarding gas prices, our's jumped from 2.99 to 3.12 yesterday. My local gas station went from 3.01 to 2.96 yesterday! I thought, "damn, that's cheap. I better stop and fill up." LOL.

Was mentioned that our gas prices went up .13 cents was because of a refinery in St. Louis stopped producing gas because of the storms last week. Whatever. :rolleyes:

Rainbow
07-25-06, 04:15 PM
WOW!

Matrix averages about 35 per week, Trailblazer sits a lot, so like Leftys wife, it only gets filled twice a month :D

I know, I drive a gas hog but I love my truck:cry:

Unholy
07-25-06, 05:55 PM
About $3.29 for regular now. Still better than taking the city bus at $2 a ride one way. :irate:

Izzo
07-27-06, 04:31 PM
F YOU EXXON (http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/27/news/companies/exxon/index.htm?cnn=yes)

1,300.00 every damn second of the day