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Joel
02-02-04, 09:31 PM
Okay, let me make sure I'm getting this straight.

Dual channel is just 2 of the same sticks of memory in a pair. Like, 2 x 256MB Corsair would work better than 1 x 512MB corsair. Is that all there is to it, just making the same exact thing in a pair, or do you have to buy special memory. I know the mobo I'm takling about supports dual channel.

So.

Brk
02-02-04, 09:34 PM
You really should get the same size/brand sticks to make it run optimally. That's why many major RAM makers sell specific dual-channel pairs.

Joel
02-02-04, 09:41 PM
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Okay, here is why. My brother is getting a new system but the budget is a smidge tight, so he's going to go a little cheaper on the RAM, but wants to be able to ad more later and run dual channel.

Here are the main specs so far:

Memory (System Memory)
Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 256MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM
Specification
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 32M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820145025 $41.00

Motherboards - Intel
GIGABYTE 865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU, Model "GA-8IPE1000Pro 2004 GT Edition" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 478 Intel Pentium 4 Processors(Hyper-Threading)
Chipset: Intel 865PE + ICH5
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM for Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 100/66/33 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1xAGP 8X, 5xPCI 32-bit
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC658 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Intel 10/100Mbps Ethernet
Onboard SATA: 2x Serial ATA
Onboard 1394: T.I. IEEE 1394 Controller
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813128216 $96.99

Processors
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.6C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - OEM
Specification
Model: Intel Pentium 4 2.6C w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Northwood
Operating Frequency: 2.6GHz
FSB: 800MHz
Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.525V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
Packaging: OEM more info>


So, if he were to get another stick of the same exact stuff later, he could run dual channel.

Also, another question: Does anyone know how well this board and CPU OC? I know the board has some fancy little application you can OC from windows with, I was just wondering if anyone has experience with it.

zooner
02-03-04, 12:21 AM
get the cpu retail because it'll include the hsf.

Joel
02-03-04, 09:21 AM
Well, I found this other fan with a controller for like $17. He 's going to have a side panel and wants it to look fancy, which this one does. And even when at full speed it's only like 25dba.

Addict
02-03-04, 12:30 PM
The memory needs to be matched exactly. Buying Corsair should be ok. Just make sure you know the model# for when you decide to go with the other stick.
Are you sure the board will run single channel? Most that do run single channel only allow for a DIMM of 128MB in slot #1A. Any size higher requires 2 sticks.


Originally posted by zooner
get the cpu retail because it'll include the hsf.

And a warranty. ;)

Joel
02-03-04, 01:05 PM
I think he'll probably get 2 of those corsair 256MB sticks, so he can run dual channel. Seems like the smart thing to do.

Does anyone browsing this know what the ATI 7000 is like?

Addict
02-03-04, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by sludge
Does anyone browsing this know what the ATI 7000 is like?
:nope:
Waste of money if he wants to play any games at all.

Joel
02-03-04, 02:09 PM
Well, TigerDirect has a 7000 with dual VGA out and TV-out for only $30 after rebate.

I'm not sure what kind of gaming he'd be doing, no more than what I do with my GF2 MX200(:p). How's the 2D?
(check it (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=541977&Sku=C261-6003&CatId=318) out.)

Addict
02-03-04, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by sludge
Well, TigerDirect has a 7000 with dual VGA out and TV-out for only $30 after rebate.

I'm not sure what kind of gaming he'd be doing, no more than what I do with my GF2 MX200(:p). How's the 2D?
(check it (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=541977&Sku=C261-6003&CatId=318) out.)

2D is fine. Jst don't expect the card to be handing T&L and such.

Joel
02-04-04, 10:42 AM
Hey - Question about the stock fan that comes with the retail P4 2.4C Northwood retail.

How high could you OC with it? Do you think it could handle the P4 at 3GHz?

YeOldeStonecat
02-04-04, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by sludge
Hey - Question about the stock fan that comes with the retail P4 2.4C Northwood retail.

How high could you OC with it? Do you think it could handle the P4 at 3GHz?

People have been taking the 2.4 over 3.2 with that stock fan...even higher. The stock HSF's that they come with in the retail box works great. Since the 1.0 PIII...Intel has been providing excellent HSF's with their retail boxed CPU's.

Evilone
02-04-04, 11:28 AM
I got a question too about dual channel.
i got 1gig(512x2) of geil 3500 dual channel right now, if i wanted to add another gig do i need to get the same type from geil or could it be from someone else?

YeOldeStonecat
02-04-04, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Evilone
I got a question too about dual channel.
i got 1gig(512x2) of geil 3500 dual channel right now, if i wanted to add another gig do i need to get the same type from geil or could it be from someone else?

It's always been my belief to try to keep the exact same RAM types across the board. Sure mixing RAM will usually work 95% of the time, but sometimes you get quirks if mixing RAM. Or if you're striving for the highest overclock....having mixed RAM might not let you crank the FSB as high, or lead to some instability. But I'm not one to follow "It usually works fine"...I like to "know it will work at 100%". For some people, "usually" is often good enough.

The least problems, and often the highest performance, usually comes from keeping it all the same exact same kind...right down to the part number.

Evilone
02-04-04, 12:12 PM
ill just get the same type and brand just to be safe, and geil doesn't cost as much as some others and seems to work good with what i got now