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Get an iPod!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:06 am
by Brk
This is seriously the best piece of hardware I've ever purchased. I got the 20 GB and I have all my favorite CDs on it, in perfect quality. Plug my Sony studio headphones into it and VOILA! Magic audio, man. I recommend it to ANYONE!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:36 am
by YARDofSTUF
cost?
what else can it do?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:44 am
by Brk
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
cost?
what else can it do?
$499. You can also use it as a portable hard drive too.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:42 am
by cy
I personally think that iPod is a really cool looking portable player...however, i would think that it's too big for a MP3 player. True that it can be used as a hard drive, but why? The reason you buy it is for music, so why not buy a net MD player? I personally own 5 MD players and i loved them all lol

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:48 am
by Brk
Too big? It's about the size of a pack of cigarettes!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:49 am
by cy
hmmmm still too big for me hehehe

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:53 am
by Immortal
tis nice... but does it not only work with macs?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:54 am
by Brk
Originally posted by Immortal
tis nice... but does it not only work with macs?
No, they recently released a version for Windows.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:26 am
by cy
Afterall, it's a really nice player i gotta admit

I love the white backlight specifically and how it fades in and out..

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 6:01 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Just got the kid this Archos MP3 player...20 gigs of HD storage, USB 2.0 for lightening fast transfers from your 'puter.
http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500277.html
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:25 am
by kieofwoo
If you got the Archos, you can change the firmware for a 3rd party one that adds a load of functionality - highly recommended.
http://rockbox.haxx.se/
The Ipod is a beautiful peice of hardware but too expensive and a little too pretty. It's also missing a few essential features (for me at least), e.g. non-removable battery, can't upload cue sheets, won't play large mp3's, can only sync with 1 computer only. All in all it's a very macintosh piece of work. Nice to look at but I wouldn't get one.
Personally I'm about to get my hands on a second hand PJB100 from Hango/Remote Solutions. It was originally a research project of Compact but Hango bought up the rights and marketed it (although not that well as it's relatively unknown).
It is IMO still the best PC solution out there (although larger than the ipod) and there is active 3rd party development for it and a solid user base.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 8:47 am
by Brk
I thought about the Archos player, but opted for the iPod for both the ease of use with the jog control, simple playlist management and its aesthetics, of course. Either way, having dozens of your favorite albums handy is worth the price for either player!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 9:00 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by Burke
Either way, having dozens of your favorite albums handy is worth the price for either player!
Yeah 20 gigs is an aweful lot of music....plus USB 2...heh, so quick. I don't know if I were to get one for myself which I would have gotten....the Archos we got for him, cuz he turned 12 yesterday, and the Archos has those rubber corners...seems somewhat "kidproof" as far as bumps and drops go. If I were to get one for myself...dunno what I'd get.
Ideally something that I could uplink to my car stereo is what I'm looking for....as I don't need anything with headphones, "walkman type", but rather something to take tunes on the road with.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 10:10 am
by Brk
You can also use it to store contacts, calendars, and it even comes with Breakout!

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:05 am
by YARDofSTUF
so u can play games on the ipod?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:09 am
by Brk
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
so u can play games on the ipod?
Well, Breakout at least...I don't think it's one of the iPod's selling points, though.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:18 am
by YARDofSTUF
Originally posted by Burke
Well, Breakout at least...I don't think it's one of the iPod's selling points, though.
can u play breakout while listening to a song?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:38 pm
by cy
MP3 players are nice and small, but ONLY thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't have a remote control....All 5 of my MD players have a remote control and I got used to it already...I hate to hold my player in my hand, I just leave it in my bag even tho it's small

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:52 pm
by Unholy
The Archos has a remote it's justy crappy.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:14 pm
by YARDofSTUF
a remote for a protable device is retared.
i dont realyl like minidsic players either
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:22 pm
by cy
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
a remote for a protable device is retared.
i dont realyl like minidsic players either
reasons?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:25 pm
by cy
Net MD transfer is as fast as a MP3 player, LP4 allows 320 mins per disc....also you can exchange discs with friends and stuff....
Why remote retarded? I hate it when people hold their disc players in their hand, looks more retarded. The remotes I got looks amazing, maybe remote in your mind is a little volume control thingy...but nah, but MD it's so fancy.

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:41 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Originally posted by cy
reasons?
theres just not enough advantages over cdrs
now 20 gigs of space, thats an advantage!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:27 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
a remote for a protable device is retared.
I know I was thinking that...I mean, it's a portable device already the size of, or smaller, than most remotes.
It's like having a remote control for your computers mouse.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:39 pm
by cy
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
I know I was thinking that...I mean, it's a portable device already the size of, or smaller, than most remotes.
It's like having a remote control for your computers mouse.
doesn't matter with the size of it tho....
For me i jsut hate to hold whatever player in my hand and have a wire hanging down from my hand, or i hate to see people doing it....so i would prefer a remote and have my player in my pocket or bag. Infact, my next MP3/MD player HAS to have a remote, not a crappy one, but a nice one

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:48 pm
by Faust
Ideally something that I could uplink to my car stereo is what I'm looking for....as I don't need anything with headphones, "walkman type", but rather something to take tunes on the road with.
that's what 8-track tapes are for!
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 6:27 pm
by kieofwoo
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Ideally something that I could uplink to my car stereo is what I'm looking for....as I don't need anything with headphones, "walkman type", but rather something to take tunes on the road with.
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Many MP3 players have a line out so you can link up with anything with a line in. Alternatively, you can use the casette adaptor thingy if you stereo doesn't have an aux input.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2002 6:33 pm
by kieofwoo
Generally speaking, MP3 players are almost there. THe next generation will hopefully be the real thing. I'm talking nice to look out, better to listen to, and real convenient to use.
In the mean time, I'll be enjoying my PJB which should arrive soon. It sounds great and is convenient to use (although only USB 1, with 20GB I can upload my collection once and only do minor changes after that). I can't wait

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 3:35 am
by YARDofSTUF
Originally posted by cy
doesn't matter with the size of it tho....
For me i jsut hate to hold whatever player in my hand and have a wire hanging down from my hand, or i hate to see people doing it....so i would prefer a remote and have my player in my pocket or bag. Infact, my next MP3/MD player HAS to have a remote, not a crappy one, but a nice one
with MD players u still have the wire for teh headphones.
no offense but i think ur the kinda person that makes ppl design thigns like "under the car lighting"
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:03 am
by kieofwoo
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
with MD players u still have the wire for teh headphones.
Too true!
no offense but i think ur the kinda person that makes ppl design thigns like "under the car lighting"
What's wrong with under-car lighting, I love it

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:22 am
by YARDofSTUF
Originally posted by kieofwoo
What's wrong with under-car lighting, I love it
i feel its wrong for corporate america to distinguish and "mark" retards by gearing products towards them.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:25 am
by kieofwoo
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
i feel its wrong for corporate america to distinguish and "mark" retards by gearing products towards them.
But it's so cool, it makes the car look like it's floating on a layer of blue neon light - I like that

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 11:46 am
by Brk
Well, if it's good enough for the Batmobile...
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 12:06 pm
by FlyingMonkey
A few weeks back I got a good deal on the Archos 20 GB Recorder. I use it for my car - plugs right in to the tape deck. I have about 10 GB of songs on it now but I wish the shuffle feature would shuffle through all folders (currently it just shuffles through the current folder and I keep all albumns in their own folder)
Maybe there is a way to shuffle through the whole player and I'm just missing it. Either way this thing is awesome for the car.
If a friend of mine ever asks if I want to smoke, I can say ... "No, I can't smoke .. my MP3 player is in the ash tray"

FlyingMonkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:12 pm
by kieofwoo
Can't you make a playlist of everything and just shuffle that?
Check out the website I posted,
http://rockbox.haxx.se, they even have a link to a remote control for the archos.
This open source firmware is THE way to go - it's like getting a new machine, or so I'm told.
Enjoy!
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:48 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by FlyingMonkey
A few weeks back I got a good deal on the Archos 20 GB Recorder. I use it for my car - plugs right in to the tape deck.
Maybe there is a way to shuffle through the whole player and I'm just missing it. Either way this thing is awesome for the car.
That's prolly what I'll do...get a new deck for my Jeep with aux source jacks in the back. Right now it's the cheapo factory tape deck. Haven't visited the Crutchfield guys yet for this vehicle like I usually do.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:51 pm
by Mehmet
i actually tested out the Archos at compusa..
ive got one thing to say about it:
ITS A FREAKIN BRICK! So heavy! I bet if i threw at somebody they would probably die or something. I want the ipod!!!! me want!! me want!
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 8:58 pm
by brembo
Originally posted by vegeto
i actually tested out the Archos at compusa..
ive got one thing to say about it:
ITS A FREAKIN BRICK! So heavy! I bet if i threw at somebody they would probably die or something. I want the ipod!!!! me want!! me want!
You little Mac freak.

I have a 5 gig archos. Its gets finiky when the batts are low, otherwise, its been a trooper. I beat the crap outta it(like roll down rocky hills, ride motorcycle off-road, weed-eat). Good purchase I think.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:18 pm
by Mehmet
Originally posted by brembo
You little Mac freak.
I have a 5 gig archos. Its gets finiky when the batts are low, otherwise, its been a trooper. I beat the crap outta it(like roll down rocky hills, ride motorcycle off-road, weed-eat). Good purchase I think.
besides me being a mac guy..
i actually wanted one for my pc. Im serious. i dont live a mac guy life. i live a pc guy life ;D
I tried putting the archos in my shorts side pocket.. and it dragged them down..
i want an IPOD!! ARGH!
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:22 pm
by cy
Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
with MD players u still have the wire for teh headphones.
no offense but i think ur the kinda person that makes ppl design thigns like "under the car lighting"
dude, i m not saying that MD doesn't have wire for the headphone, just that u don't have to hold the disc player on your HAND and instead you can put it in your pocket or bag while having full control with your song selections and volume.
I guess this is just the difference of thinking of Asian and Amercians lol...*hint* that's why Japan's stuffs look a LOT cooler *hint*
