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..how in the world of hades do install a friggin program on this?

example...downloaded latest version of firefox ..extracted the tar file to my home directory and i have no clue how to install it ...

mandriva 2005









this is why Linux will never go mainstream

Ubuntu!

You could try from command line ./programfilename

Izzo wrote: this is why Linux will never go mainstream

To late, it already has

izzohost$ tar xvzf firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
izzohost$ cd firefox
izzohost$ ./firefox

greEd wrote:To late, it already has

izzohost$ tar xvzf firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
izzohost$ cd firefox
izzohost$ ./firefox

lol....there is a definate community but it will never catch on with the masses because of the 145698628549654609546 configuration files you gotta fiddle with just to get a simple service running....

will try this again...

Izzo wrote:lol....there is a definate community but it will never catch on with the masses because of the 145698628549654609546 configuration files you gotta fiddle with just to get a simple service running....

will try this again...

It's all very simple once you get used to it. Trust me.

Stick to it don't give up! If you need to pm me I'll be glad to help you.

I get an error message

/firefox-bin : error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory

greEd wrote:It's all very simple once you get used to it. Trust me.

Stick to it don't give up! If you need to pm me I'll be glad to help you.

very generous......there are times i feel i start to catch on ....then comes today


it's difficult to maintain patience

What flavor are you running?

mandriva 2005

Izzo wrote:mandriva 2005

Don't you have some type of apt or yast or rpm manager on that thing? If it was a debian or flavor of, a simple, 'apt-get install firefox', or something to that effect would get it bundled for you.

Well Nix is not easy, I don't give a crap what they say.... Moving from windows is not easy, especially if you have any kind of new hardware. Healthy learning curve, but, don't get discouraged, it does start to get a bit easier as you learn.

I'm still trying to get all the HW on my lappy working right.

Sid wrote:Don't you have some type of apt or yast or rpm manager on that thing? If it was a debian or flavor of, a simple, 'apt-get install firefox', or something to that effect would get it bundled for you.

Well Nix is not easy, I don't give a crap what they say.... Moving from windows is not easy, especially if you have any kind of new hardware. Healthy learning curve, but, don't get discouraged, it does start to get a bit easier as you learn.

I'm still trying to get all the HW on my lappy working right.

not for firefox .... just comes in a .tar.gz file..... tried the graphical rpm manager they got and i couldn't get that to work either....so i just deleted all the firefox directories/files and got a fresh copy of the download...

open up a terminal, cd over to the appropriate directory (if you have the sources, that is, if it's firefox, i think it comes w/ the installer, double click it in your window manager)...anyway cd over to the directory..at the shell prompt:

./configure <enter>
make <enter>
make install <enter>

i still find it miraculous that i got the Nvidia drivers to install and work ...

Amro wrote:open up a terminal, cd over to the appropriate directory (if you have the sources, that is, if it's firefox, i think it comes w/ the installer, double click it in your window manager)...anyway cd over to the directory..at the shell prompt:

./configure <enter>
make <enter>
make install <enter>

i've tried this also ....


when i type in "./configure" i get an error message saying no such file or directory

Izzo wrote:i still find it miraculous that i got the Nvidia drivers to install and work ...

You the man.

i downloaded it on my windows box to see the directory structure.. try typing this while at the directory at a shell prompt:

./firefox

if that doesn't work, try ./firefox-bin

Amro wrote:i downloaded it on my windows box to see the directory structure.. try typing this while at the directory at a shell prompt:

./firefox

if that doesn't work, try ./firefox-bin

ok ..lemme see if i understand correctly....

within a terminal window ...as root i type

./firefox or ./firefox-bin ....correct?


to install the nvidia drivers i typed in sh before the file name and it was kinda easy from there ...

am i in the ballpark ?

Izzo - may be that linux hates you. In which case, you're screwed.

Which package did you download? bin, src, rpm, srpm?
Go into the untared dir and see what is executable.

cyberskye wrote:Izzo - may be that linux hates you. In which case, you're screwed.

Which package did you download? bin, src, rpm, srpm?
Go into the untared dir and see what is executable.

You're probably right skye.....If I were Linux I'd hate me too


it's a bin

Izzo wrote:ok ..lemme see if i understand correctly....

within a terminal window ...as root i type

./firefox or ./firefox-bin ....correct?


to install the nvidia drivers i typed in sh before the file name and it was kinda easy from there ...

am i in the ballpark ?

right, but more specifically you must be cd'd to that directory (the one firefox is in) so it can access the file. otherwise you need to add it to your path.

anyway so for example

cd /opt/firefox <enter>
./firefox <enter>


where /opt/firefox is where you've extracted firefox and can list the files there..use it like dos only instead of typing an exe name, type ./BIN_NAME

Depending on permissions and who extracted it, you may not need to be root.

izzo, always get rpm files

Try this izzo

http://www.penguinpusher.org/2005/12/06 ... riva-2006/

Better yet, play with the Mandrake version you have for a while, seyt it up just how you like it, then wipe it completely and install Debian base. Once the base Debian distro is installed you can build up from there into the exact desired system you want without all the extra fluff and garbage that comes with Mandriva and other "let's-make-linux-mainstream" distros. For example, you don't need multiple window managers, you don't need multiple office suites, you don't need 3 browsers, etc. etc. Heck, you don't even need a desktop environment with Debian! I just use Fluxbox window manager and a few dock apps for icon shortcuts, and the systems has everything I want and need.

YARDofSTUF wrote:izzo, always get rpm files

ya

Amro wrote:right, but more specifically you must be cd'd to that directory (the one firefox is in) so it can access the file. otherwise you need to add it to your path.

anyway so for example

cd /opt/firefox <enter>
./firefox <enter>


where /opt/firefox is where you've extracted firefox and can list the files there..use it like dos only instead of typing an exe name, type ./BIN_NAME

Depending on permissions and who extracted it, you may not need to be root.

right...Yeah, i made sure i was in the firefox/ directory before I tried ...still got that same error.

TonyT wrote:Better yet, play with the Mandrake version you have for a while, seyt it up just how you like it, then wipe it completely and install Debian base. Once the base Debian distro is installed you can build up from there into the exact desired system you want without all the extra fluff and garbage that comes with Mandriva and other "let's-make-linux-mainstream" distros. For example, you don't need multiple window managers, you don't need multiple office suites, you don't need 3 browsers, etc. etc. Heck, you don't even need a desktop environment with Debian! I just use Fluxbox window manager and a few dock apps for icon shortcuts, and the systems has everything I want and need.

Sort of for school......(don't ask) .... Book I'm reading from uses FC but then we decided to go to Mandriva....

can you post a long list from the FF directory?

ls -al

so we can see the pemissions and files in the dir.

Lefty wrote:can you post a long list from the FF directory?

ls -al

so we can see the pemissions and files in the dir.

I'm at work now .... I even looked at it via the Terminal window and a graphical file manager....saw the bin executable ... just couldnt get it to work.

Izzo wrote:You're probably right skye.....If I were Linux I'd hate me too


it's a bin

I'd recommend the rpm flavor - you appear to have issues with a so (like dll in windows). Either can't be found or doesn't exist. An rpm mgr would fix this for you.

If no windows apps had installers, you'd be bitching just as loud about windows...

EDIT - I am all for the learning experience of figuring this out, but if it's gonna turn you off of *nix, it's better to use a package mgr - we don't want to lose you to the darkside, Izz

cyberskye wrote:I'd recommend the rpm flavor - you appear to have issues with a so (like dll in windows). Either can't be found or doesn't exist. An rpm mgr would fix this for you.

If no windows apps had installers, you'd be bitching just as loud about windows...

You're right.

Could be mismatched libraries issues, similar to whatb skye said re the dll analogy.
Fixes here:
http://www.penguinpusher.org/2005/12/06 ... riva-2006/

I also recommend Ubuntu, very very easy. All you have to do is sudo apt-get install firefox, its built in anyways. Just try it, also on there website they send you free install cds/live cds, unlimited amount.

mmione wrote:I also recommend Ubuntu, very very easy.

Hmmm... Think I may try this.....someday.

TonyT wrote:Could be mismatched libraries issues, similar to whatb skye said re the dll analogy.
Fixes here:
http://www.penguinpusher.org/2005/12/06 ... riva-2006/

Sid wrote:Try this izzo

http://www.penguinpusher.org/2005/12/06 ... riva-2006/

Success!.. Thanks Sid 'n Tony ...worked like a charm.


It was an so problem...

cyberskye wrote:I'd recommend the rpm flavor - you appear to have issues with a so (like dll in windows). Either can't be found or doesn't exist. An rpm mgr would fix this for you.

If no windows apps had installers, you'd be bitching just as loud about windows...

EDIT - I am all for the learning experience of figuring this out, but if it's gonna turn you off of *nix, it's better to use a package mgr - we don't want to lose you to the darkside, Izz

Actually, this sort of crap only makes me more determined...I just need to vent. You guys are the best.

cyberskye wrote:I'd recommend the rpm flavor - you appear to have issues with a so (like dll in windows). Either can't be found or doesn't exist. An rpm mgr would fix this for you.

If no windows apps had installers, you'd be bitching just as loud about windows...

EDIT - I am all for the learning experience of figuring this out, but if it's gonna turn you off of *nix, it's better to use a package mgr - we don't want to lose you to the darkside, Izz

had to urpmi that so file....you were right ....

Izzo wrote:Actually, this sort of crap only makes me more determined...I just need to vent. You guys are the best.

With taht spirit you'll be a guru in no time.

Glad you worked it out.

Skye

EDIT - while for the 'hacking' experience and learning how things work, manual installs and configuration are great...if you plan on being a pro administrator, with a lot of boxes to manage, you WILL need to use automation. Learning the ins N outs of a package mgr is a very marketable skill.

cyberskye wrote:

With taht spirit you'll be a guru in no time.

Glad you worked it out.

Skye

EDIT - while for the 'hacking' experience and learning how things work, manual installs and configuration are great...if you plan on being a pro administrator, with a lot of boxes to manage, you WILL need to use automation. Learning the ins N outs of a package mgr is a very marketable skill.

yeah ....used the rpm manager to get the Nforce 4 drivers to work with this ....was slick ...just thought i'd go online ...firefox gave me the "update me" page so i thought ...what the hell...what a nightmare.


edit>>thanks to you too skye

Izzo wrote:Success!.. Thanks Sid 'n Tony ...worked like a charm.


It was an so problem...

No problem. Myself, I'm a Debian core man. Running Ubuntu Breezy on the lappy, but have installed and ran Etch for a few weeks. Gave up after having so many problems getting the hardware to work right.